Sleepless Domain

Half and half.

Well, Undine got a new move in her arsenal.

I wouldn't get too uppity, Cassidy. You're kinda vulnerable right now, what with the lack of Cream-flavored clone and all.

You can tell she's thinking "now you're showing your true colors, with being willing to MURDER me."

Undine: "but you TOLD me that there's no harm if a clone dies!" Cassidy: *surprised pikachu face*

Edited by Nouct on Feb 7th 2020 at 3:23:02 AM

I don't think that kind of logic is high on our Creamsicle's priorities right now.

Okay, now the Undertale influence is definitely spilling over, if people are misspelling her name like that.

Edited by TotemicHero on Feb 7th 2020 at 6:14:05 AM

shhhhhhhh

Well, I suppose now we'll get to see if Cassidy can immediately spawn another clone. Though if she's smart, she'll keep that under her hat rather than reveal all her tricks right away.

Also, while I completely expect her to act like this 'proves' Undine is just as nasty as she's been implying, given how it looks like she was aiming to take off her head with that slice, she doesn't really have any 'moral high ground' to stand on here. Undine doesn't have the leeway that 'disposable Schrodinger's clones' provides.

Also, worth pointing out that Cassidy's response to Undine asserting that she doesn't owe her anything is effectively declaring that "Actually, you totally do."

You know what would be really tense in this situation? If Undine were like, "Okay, call out your clone again, already!" and Cassidy was like, "Nah," and attacked her directly. The clones take the pressure off of Undine to restrain her power, after all!

In fairness, Cassidy was using the part of the scissors that isn't bladed to make that strike. It was still going to hurt like a bitch, and was still aimed in the general angle of Undine's neck which could cause several other problems, but I don't think we can accuse her of trying to be lethal.

Edited by TheLovecraftian on Feb 7th 2020 at 12:39:40 PM

Alternatively Undine's plan is to drain Cassidy's magic by forcing her to regenerate clones constantly.

Which could be a good idea in a "now go home, sit out this patrol and cool your head off/sleep on it" way because I seriously doubt even Cassidy would want to go to patrol (which we know is after training) with depleted magic.

I think you're just deliberately trying to interpret Cassidy in as negative a light as possible.

To be fair, Cassidy isn't exactly making that hard. If nothing else her reaction to Undine's counterattack is "done messing around, huh?", which isn't all that far from Discar's guess.

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 8th 2020 at 8:46:44 AM

....meanwhile, I'm pretty sure the clones are squishier than people normally would be, because Undine's reaction to poofing one suggests that she legitimately wasn't expecting that to happen. Which would make any sort of "you're hitting rather hard for an innocent person" reaction disingenuous at best as it's hardly Undine's fault if the metaphorical HP bar was a lot smaller than she could have known.

New page.

I still don't get what makes Cassidy think Undine killed her best friends and got herself mortally wounded.

My first guess is that she was a fan of Team Alchemical and is trying to rationalize why Undine survived when the others died, but now that I've typed this, it sounds pretty flimsy.

Or maybe she's acquainted with either Gwen/Sylvia/Sally in some way

Wouldn't she know Undine would never kill her friends in that case?

I'm thinking it's the other way around: she's being overly (way overly) protective of the other club members, which also leads me to think her or her team have indeed suffered some kind of loss, and the club is now all she has.

The club being all she has is pretty strongly implied by Cassidy's wording.

Cassidy knowing of Team Alchemical is pretty likely as they had merchandise and they appeared in the programs covering the patrols/following magical girls. However, that merchandise/those shows and interviews most probably also mentioned how they were a tight group of friends even before the dreams (if that is not implied by them being thematic already - from what we saw thematic groups/duos are formed by people who had a deep previous bond).

What would cause even an outsider who knew only this much think that one of the friends would kill the others? And if Cassidy is very close/personally attached to one of the ex-members, wouldn't she have more information than your average person?

Edited by akanesarumara on Feb 12th 2020 at 4:36:56 PM

Maybe Cassidy has a horrible relationship with her team, so to her the idea of being willing to sacrifice your teammates for power doesn't seem too crazy.

...maybe someone in her team tried to kill the rest of them? Maybe even as a product of talking to a certain purple-themed jelly? (Not that Cassidy herself would be aware of that)

What we know of Cassidy's relationship with her team:

• "I'm on Team Flash, but they're all too lame to come to these [training club meetings]."
• She's on Team Flash, but they're pretty whatever.

...That might explain, at least in part, why she's so willing to confront Undine alone despite how that doesn't really fit into the narrative she's clearly crafting around her about her being a dangerous deceiver who's responsible for the deaths of three of her friends. As well as her staunch insistence that "Everybody else secretly agrees with me that you're shady and have been handling this too well!" despite all evidence to the contrary. If her relationship with her own team isn't great, and she feels like she can't count on them like she can HP and the club...

Of course, if all we know about Team Flash is filtered through her perspective, then that doesn't tell us much. Only how she sees them. We don't know if, for instance, she's the odd girl out amongst them. We don't know if they're not part of the club due to disinterest, snobbery, having their own training methods, if they're busy with other things... heck, we don't even know if they're aware the club exists.

For another example, let's say that Cassidy doesn't trust the other members of Team Flash to have her back. Is that because they don't care about her, or because they think her powers grant her the ability to have her own back? They may assume that she can take care of herself better than other members can, and something she sees as them being neglectful/leaving her to the wolves was actually them prioritizing protecting somebody/something else because they figured Cassidy would be fine on her own. She's got Expendable Clones, right? All it costs her is a little wasted magic...

If that's the sort of situation we're dealing with, then ideally, it could be cleared up by sitting down and having an honest conversation, but... one or both sides might be too comfortable with the conclusions they've already drawn.

(Now I'm really curious about what our first glimpse of Team Flash will be like, and how it might shape and inform our impressions not just of them, but of Cassidy and her whole deal...)

Part of me is a little worried that we will see Team Flash meet with an ill fate - not getting killed, I don't think, I just have this weird feeling like when we finally meet with them, it will be because something dire is happening.