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Yeah Suki's BBC entry in particular made me feel a bit skeptical. I brought it here in case I was wrong but I couldn't really imagine that she'd have much of a vocal hatedom.
The following entries from The Last of Us have been hidden, with the argument that there is little indication that the characters earned BBC status. This game is rather infamous because its treatment of the lead characters instigated massive Flame Wars among players. Shall the entries be restored or deleted?
It's just written as if it's a "fandom disagrees, these are the positions" post, which isn't BBC. You said the subject causes flame-wars. That's what the entry needs to explain. It's not enough to state the incompatible positions, explain the way it breaks the fanbase every time it gets mentioned.
In short, the entry states "what" but doesn't say "how" — it's the "how" that matters.
The second bullet point is ZCE as well.
So, the answer to your question is neither — it needs to be rewritten.
Edited by Wyldchyld on May 23rd 2022 at 4:24:55 AM
Also that first sentence in Joel's entry is kinda Department of Redundancy Department with saying "at the end of the game" twice.
To chime in on those examples, Bill's example can probably be cut, as I've never heard of anyone making those complaints. Joel definitely was a controversial character when the first game came out, but with the recent events in The Last of Us Part II he's become a borderline Sacred Cow, at least from what I can tell.
On May 30th, I've changed an entry on Spy X Family from Base-Breaking Character to Broken Base with my reasoning being its wording at the time only bringing up a character's specific trait as opposed to the character in his entirety. It was changed back on June 1st to BBC despite the wording being similar to when I made my edit. So I'm wondering if it does genuinely qualify for BBC or if it should be changed back to my original edit.
Edited by KageTsuki88 on Jun 7th 2022 at 5:15:50 AM
I found this entry on YMMV.Sleepy Hollow:
Maybe I am missing something but something seems off about this entry. Maybe it's how halfway through it becomes lopsided towards the negative. Like I feel like she fits the trope but am unsure on this write up. Is it just me?
Aside from a tiny reference in the beginning, there's nothing in that entry to suggest people "love" Katrina at all. The entry also just spoilers her death for no reason (it' snot necessarily for the example to work), so it definitely needs to be retooled.
So funnily enough this was actually the very first entry mentioned on this thread. On BrokenBase.Undertale:
Doesn't this lean too much on the negative opinions? What about the things people like about Alphys.
Right, that's just a one-sided list of complaints.
Not sure about that because Shawn is the main character and him being childish and irreverent to everyone is the prime source of comedy.
I'm not familiar with the show's community, though it's possible for main characters to be controversial, if that's what you're getting at.
This is on FIFA Soccer:
The entry indicates that fans overwhelmingly dislike David Luiz, so that would make him The Scrappy. However, the bigger problem is that this comes a bit too close to troping real life, since it's describing an actual football player and his uneven performance throughout his career. Keep or delete?
I'd say cut. I'm a little surprised the trope isn't NRLEP.
I think it should be deleted.
EDIT: I revised this comment.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Aug 5th 2022 at 2:59:44 AM
Checked out YMMV.Ultimate Warrior, and found, uh... this.
Ngl, that entry was awful.
IDK what to do with it. Cut all but the first bullet? But that bullet implies the actual fanbase likes him? But doesn't elaborate why?
I agree with you; I'd combine the first part and the first bullet yet cut the others. However, I think it should be commented out until further elaboration is given as to why fans like the boi.
Excuse me. Long ago I made this Sandbox page about Broken Base and Base-Breaking Character on BlazBlue. I would like to know if they are actually fitting or not. It's been a damn while since I touched the franchise and I'm not very sure where the fandom swings right now. I want to know if the entries count or not.
Because if they don't count, then I will notify the Abandoned Sandbox Cleanup thread that they're free to nuke it. If they fit, then I will proceed with ironing out the page to make it more proper.
Edited by ChrisX on Aug 29th 2022 at 5:57:19 PM
Having read through them, I don't think any of them count.
While I don't know what's up with the BlazBlue fandom these days, none of the entries read as legitimate Broken Base or Base Breaker Character entries and feel too...complain-y or skewed or something of the sort.
If you'd like more feedback, I can also recommend the Broken Base clean-up thread. Link here.
Yeah. I would've guessed. It's been awhile since I've been into the BB fanbase to make sound judgment on that. I'll just save it to my own Google Doc (for backup purposes) and ask the other thread to nuke the Sandbox if the Broken Base thread says 'nuke it' too.
Edited by ChrisX on Sep 4th 2022 at 11:31:52 PM
From YMMV.Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure Stone Ocean:
The reasons given for disliking Pucci here aren't about him being a poorly-written character, but about him doing evil deeds (he's the Big Bad, what do you expect?) As far as I know, Pucci is considered one of the best JoJo antagonists, with his detractors being a small minority.
As a Jojo fan myself, I have never heard of Pucci having a vocal hatedom. So I’m leaning towards cut as well.
For the evil deeds part, I guess whether or not you should mention stuff like that (in situations like this, at least) depends on the character.
However, I feel this should be cut since (at least to my knowledge) Pucci is mostly well-received.
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