A thread discussing similar tropes.
Note that two tropes being distinct in theory does that mean they are distinct in practice. If participants agree that two (or more) tropes really don't seem distinct enough to be separate, one can start a thread in the Trope Repair Shop for further discussion. A a wick check demonstrating redundancy will likely be required, though.
Before asking "What's the difference between these tropes?", check the Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions and Laconical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions lists. They may contain the answer. Feel free to contribute to them, too.
I've decided to start a new cleanup thread dealing with trope similarities. This thread is for discussing tropes that appear to be a duplicate of another trope, and if it's agreed upon that the two tropes talked about are similar enough, one should start a thread about it in the Trope Repair Shop.
I'll start with my issue...
Asian Hooker Stereotype and Mighty Whitey and Mellow Yellow are pretty much the same trope—they both involve a white man and an Asian woman.
Edited by Synchronicity on Aug 8th 2024 at 5:29:57 AM
Birds of a Feather is a romance trope about characters who have many things in common falling in love; Commonality Connection is about rather different characters bonding after finding they do have something in common.
I've seen Birds of a Feather be used for non-romantic pairs though. Is that misuse, then?
Birds of a Feather's description says that it includes non romantic examples or at least it implies that it does. So might want to tweak the definition if they are supposed to be different tropes.
Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 2nd 2020 at 4:49:37 AM
Macron's notesBest Friend and Just Friends are included as BOAF's subtropes.
Edited by Adept on Feb 2nd 2020 at 5:40:43 PM
The description of both Birds of a Feather and Commonality Connection contrast each other by the number of similarities.
- Birds of a Feather: "When the commonalities are much fewer but still create a bond, see Commonality Connection."
- Commonality Connection: "For much more extensive commonalities, see Birds of a Feather."
That clearly goes against the idea of romantic versus non-romantic which, I admit, also was my conception of what separates the two.
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To be honest, I think either distinctions are way too fine. The romantic/non-romantic split seems like The Same, but More Specific, while ![]()
seems like The Same, but More.
I apologize if this has been discussed before, but is there anything that makes Used to Be a Tomboy anything other than Girliness Upgrade But More Specific?
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I'd argue that "romance" is a meaningful enough distinction, it signifies a deep bond. CC can count just someone becoming friends or even simply "fellow X".
Used to Be a Tomboy signifies growth in story. GU can happen in adaptations or retellings or reboots.
A good amount of examples on Girliness Upgrade, as well as the description, include purely In-Universe changes.
I thought Used to Be a Tomboy is when a character is revealed to have been a tomboy in the backstory, while Girliness Upgrade is when the tomboy-to-girly-girl evolution happens throughout the main story.
Is Forgettable Name
distinct enough from the tropes on Who Is This Guy Again to justify a seperate trope page?
Probably the same as Accidental Misnaming come to think of it..
Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 3rd 2020 at 10:10:23 AM
Macron's notesThe Resenter vs Green-Eyed Monster. Both of them seems to describe characters who hates another because they are jealous of them.
^ A Green-Eyed Monster commits evil acts fueled by their resentment. Other than that I can't see a tangible difference.
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
Since no one replied to my other thread: what is the difference between Mundane Fantastic and Magic Realism? It seems like the main distinction is that MR is set in the "real world", but is that alone the only difference?
There are lots of duplicate examples between the two pages. The laconics are also very similar:
I don't see one. Canon Fodder claims to be a subtrope, but I can't imagine Fanfic Fuel that isn't Canon Fodder.
Okay, looking a little harder, Fanfic Fuel says the distinction is that Canon Fodder actually gets addressed at some point... "or the creators at least imply that they intend(ed) to tell these stories themselves at a later point". This doesn't really seem like a workable distinction.
Edited by wingedcatgirl on Feb 10th 2020 at 9:13:51 AM
Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.Both Accidental Aesop and Alternate Aesop Interpretation seem to be defined as "audiences observes a different aesop than what the work intends."
