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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#226: Feb 2nd 2020 at 10:07:44 AM

Nintendo Will Own the Rights to the Illumination Super Mario Movie

That headline's worded weirdly.

I'm gonna need context.

Does that mean Nintendo, not Universal or Comcast, will be able to do as they please with the movie? Like let it stream wherever they want?

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#227: Feb 2nd 2020 at 10:27:24 AM

Here's what Nintendo's financial briefing said:

This is a project that Nintendo is proactively involved in from its development and production, and we will also own the rights so that the movie can be leveraged for business opportunities. The movie will be jointly produced by Mr. Shigeru Miyamoto, Representative Director and Fellow at Nintendo, as well as Mr. Chris Meledandri, founder and CEO of Illumination. Funding for this movie will be provided by Nintendo and Universal Pictures, and Universal Pictures will also be handling the distribution and promotion of the movie.

If I understand this correctly, Universal would be the ones who would decide what streaming platforms it would be released on, as they're the ones handling distribution.

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#228: Feb 2nd 2020 at 10:38:07 AM

So Nintendo owns the movie, but Universal owns Distribution basically. So Illumination is technically a Studio Nintendo outsourced their work to.tongue

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#229: Feb 2nd 2020 at 11:32:40 AM

Hey, if it means Illumination's usual trappings of toilet humor and Minions get put a minimum, I won't complain.

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#230: Feb 2nd 2020 at 1:35:02 PM

Someone should tell Sega that this is how you make sure your movie based on an important mascot should be handled.

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#231: Feb 2nd 2020 at 1:47:26 PM

Guess that means Nintendo will own any new character made for the film.

Edited by Cortez on Feb 21st 2020 at 6:58:01 AM

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#232: Mar 10th 2020 at 6:43:44 AM

Shigeru Miyamoto shares his experience with the one moment he trusted Illumination with the Mario movie.

Miyamoto: When we started our partnership with Universal, I heard that the CEO of Illumination, Chris Meledandri, wanted to meet with me - he was also signed with Universal. So I met with him and talked. He brought things with him that I had mentioned in interviews in the past to say that our ways of thinking and doing things are one in the same.

Famitsu: He was very eager.

Miyamoto: I didn't know what kind of angle he was getting at, but I'll never forget when he talked to me about why he had failed before. That's when I thought, "I think I can trust this guy." That was right around the time I was considering movies, so we decided to have him do the animation for us when he said, "What do you say? Let's make something together." It took a really long time for things to come together, but we finally found our way.

Famitsu: What was Chris's "failure" that he mentioned?

Miyamoto: Can't say. (Laughs)

What could Meledandri's failure be?

I hypothesize that it might've been The Lorax or The Grinch (2018) while leaning more towards Lorax.

(But didn't those movies make bank, despite the bad/eh reviews?)

Yeah, they did. But maybe he regrets them when looking back at them in retrospect.

The Lorax in particular was pretty lame in how little it gave attention to the titular character or how its marketing missed the point entirely. (Among other hiccups, like the Dawson Casting, the unintended memes, the Base-Breaking nature of the Once-ler.)

Meanwhile, The Grinch, while it ironed out a big chunk of The Lorax's issues, still became considered inferior in comparison to the other Grinch adaptations.

Not only that, but it holds the distinction of being the last Dr. Seuss thing released by Universal before the Dr. Seuss estate resolved to partner with Warner Bros., leading to the Green Eggs and Ham series on Netflix, which seems to have managed to blow the previous Dr. Seuss adaptations out of the water.

Despite this talk of regret, it's all probably going to be moot until we actually see where they're going with Mario. Hopefully, Nintendo is keeping a close enough eye on the production that it won't be scrutinized as badly as the Sonic movie was before its facelift.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#233: Mar 10th 2020 at 8:00:35 AM

Someone should tell Sega that this is how you make sure your movie based on an important mascot should be handled.

I don't know.

I actually enjoyed movie!Sonic being allowed to feel sad and depressed. Compared to Game!Sonic where Sega will never allow him to be anything other than slightly annoyed at worst.

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#234: Mar 10th 2020 at 8:06:33 AM

I mean, if that were actually true...then sure.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#235: Mar 10th 2020 at 8:47:34 AM

[up][up] I think the OP was referring to how that first design almost killed the movie over how ugly and un-Sonic it looked that it needed the movie to get delayed to this year to fix it up.

The movie itself is actually a rather solid origin story for the Blue Blur and the Bad Doctor. Plus, it benefited tons with the second design (and cameo of Tails).

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#236: Mar 10th 2020 at 7:39:04 PM

I wonder when we'll see a clip.

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#237: Mar 10th 2020 at 10:01:48 PM

[up]x2 Which in itself is kind of an apple and orange comparison as this is Nintendo’s second attempt at a Mario movie and they don’t want a repeat like 1993.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#238: Mar 11th 2020 at 2:32:40 AM

[up][up][up][up] The Sonic the Hedgehog (IDW) comic mandates are in-line with how Sega wants Sonic characters to be portrayed, among them that Sonic can't cry or show strong emotion.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Mar 11th 2020 at 2:32:45 AM

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#240: May 4th 2021 at 2:28:03 PM

Nintendo seems to be pretty happy with the way things are going so far because the normally insular company is publicly discussing more animated works if this movie goes well. Considering that their media output outside of games has been extremely restricted since their early days (essentially after the original Super Mario Bros film Ba-bombed at the box office, they've avoided using their flagship characters in media outside of games and advertising) it represents something of a tonal shift from the company.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#241: May 4th 2021 at 2:52:18 PM

[up] That *IS* an interesting development. Makes me want to see the Mario trailer even more...

I'd probably forgive the constant shoving of Minions down my throat if it meant we'd see the Mario trailer at some point this year.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 4th 2021 at 2:52:32 AM

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#242: May 4th 2021 at 3:54:39 PM

Here's hoping for a Legend of Zelda animated series in the future.

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#243: May 4th 2021 at 11:47:54 PM

I'd like a Kirby, Metroid or Stafox movie. Mostly Kirby.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#244: May 6th 2021 at 1:11:26 AM

On Nintendo's earnings report under Director Change: the CEO of Illumination Entertainment Chris Meledandri has been nominated into becoming an Outside Director for Nintendo.

If they are bringing in Illumination's CEO, then they have heavyconfidence in the Mario movie.

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#245: May 6th 2021 at 1:18:46 AM

I wonder if Daisy will be in the film, even as a cameo.

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#246: May 6th 2021 at 8:12:39 AM

I said this over on the Video Games forum but I'll say it here as well: Meledandri's appointment is a hint Nintendo is serious about wanting to get into the film/TV production business.

While I don't think Nintendo will go all-in with Universal/Illumination since it wouldn't make much sense from a business standpoint, I have to imagine that Meledandri will have some sort of input on future Nintendo media projects (think, executive producer).

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#247: Aug 9th 2021 at 8:50:11 AM

In a recent interview, Sebastian Maniscalco (The Irishman) noted that he'll be playing Foreman Spike from Wrecking Crew for this film. Here, he's stated to be Mario's boss.

At the 1:35:13 mark:

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#248: Aug 9th 2021 at 11:10:14 AM

This is looking to be an Origin Story for Mario.

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#249: Aug 9th 2021 at 2:20:07 PM

Foreman Spike is one heck of a deep cut.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#250: Aug 9th 2021 at 7:25:31 PM

The '93 Mario movie also had Spike as a character, but named after the common enemy, who's also made a comeback recently in spinoffs and sports titles.

Time is a circle. XD

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