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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#26: Jan 23rd 2018 at 12:14:05 PM

I was kind of hoping James McAvoy might get a nomination for Split, he was incredible in the role but it might be seen as too blatantly Oscar Bait. Get Out! is already unraveling the idea that Oscar movies don't arrive in the first few months of the year, but one movie alone won't change the trend.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#28: Jan 23rd 2018 at 12:32:48 PM

So it happens once every 30 years. Makes it kind of a double rainbow situation, it happens but not that often.

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#29: Jan 23rd 2018 at 2:20:39 PM

Never saw Get Out, don't know if it deserves to win, but I would love to live in a future where "Academy Award Winner Jordan Peele" is a commonly-written sentence.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#30: Jan 23rd 2018 at 7:00:09 PM

Was I the only one kind of underwhelmed by Three Billboards? It was definitely a good movie, and McDormand as usual deserves all the praise she gets, buuuuuuuuut the big twist completely blew my suspension of disbelief and prevented it from being a great movie for me. Like, really, movie, you're expecting me to believe two completely different people who committed an identical crime would coincidentally pass through the same town in middle-of-nowhere Missouri in under a year? Give me a break.

edited 23rd Jan '18 7:00:25 PM by HamburgerTime

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#31: Jan 23rd 2018 at 7:35:51 PM

I haven't seen Three Billboards, but nearly every reviewer I follow hates it for giving way too much sympathy to Sam Rockwell's character, a cop with a history of racist police brutality who's given a redemption arc. Comparisons to prior Oscar Bait Crash abound.

edited 23rd Jan '18 7:36:42 PM by Tuckerscreator

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#32: Jan 23rd 2018 at 7:40:29 PM

Also I can't help but notice that what seem to be considered the three biggest snubs, Baby Driver, Wonder Woman and The Disaster Artist, all had people involved who were named in the Pervnado (the fallout from the Weinstein scandal). For WW it was the producer, Brett Ratner, if you didn't know.

edited 23rd Jan '18 7:41:12 PM by HamburgerTime

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#33: Jan 23rd 2018 at 8:19:39 PM

[up] Are they considered snubs? I've seen WW and BD and, while I definitely enjoyed them, never thought of them or The Disaster Artist as movies that would come up for Oscar nominations.

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#34: Jan 23rd 2018 at 8:24:27 PM

I’m annoyed Thor: Ragnarok didn’t get an effects or cinematography nod. The visuals made my jaw drop more than any other film this year. Hell, the score was fantastic too.

Happy to see Get Out get some love; really annoyed that I’m 98% sure Daniel Kaluuya won’t win. I haven’t seen any of the other best actor films, but I’m giving substantial side eye to Gary Oldman’s nomination.

edited 23rd Jan '18 9:56:39 PM by wisewillow

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#35: Jan 23rd 2018 at 8:26:10 PM

Baby Driver got nominated the categories that mattered most to it: Film Editing, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing.

Unsurprisingly for a sci-fi movie, Blade Runner is also in the running for those categories, but I'd rather see Blade Runner and Roger Deakins get Cinematography.

edited 23rd Jan '18 8:29:50 PM by Eschaton

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#36: Jan 24th 2018 at 2:40:37 AM

They aren't snubs. Wonder Woman is a deeply flawed movie which was never Academy Award material in the first place, Baby Driver got the categories it deserved and the Disaster Artist is just a lesser version of Ed Woods.

BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#37: Jan 24th 2018 at 8:31:28 AM

Personally, if their are any snubs it would be Logan for best picture, and Dafne Keen for best supporting actress.

jamespolk Since: Aug, 2012
#38: Jan 24th 2018 at 8:40:51 AM

With the "snubs" of Logan and Wonder Woman, the Academy keeps up its longstanding tradition of only ever nominating one film based on a comic book, comic strip, or graphic novel.

That, film, of course, was Skippy (1931).

GraymanofBelka The Senate from Coruscant Since: Dec, 2017
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#39: Jan 24th 2018 at 8:52:07 AM

Oscars never go with the popular choice. Usually the best picture Nominees consist of 1 or 2 well known movies (In this case being Dunkirk and Get out) and the rest are movies that while not flops did better with critics than with audiences.

Also they nominated Ferdinand and Bosss Baby but not the lego Batman Movie?

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40: Jan 24th 2018 at 8:58:49 AM

I am pretty p... off about what they did the best animated picture category. It was always the one category which was pretty spot on in terms of nomination (not always in the terms of winners). By allowing non-experts to vote, they created the most absurd line-up ever. Yes, it was a bad year for animation, but Boss Baby shouldn't be on there, nor should Ferdinand. Even by staying main-stream there would have been better options, but there were also a few niche movies which were way more deserving.

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#41: Jan 24th 2018 at 9:20:32 AM

Yeah, this is why we have the Annies so that those who’ve worked hard for even the most mediocre animated films get some recognition.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#42: Jan 24th 2018 at 9:52:42 AM

If Get Out wins anything I have a feeling it'll be Screenplay.

jamespolk Since: Aug, 2012
#43: Jan 24th 2018 at 11:16:12 AM

Oscars never go with the popular choice.

Oscars used to go with the popular choice. Titanic. Forrest Gump. The Return of the King. Now we get nothing but superhero movies, and most of them aren't very good.

Of course there is a certain genre prejudice here, as even on the rare occasion that someone makes an award-worthy superhero movie, like The Dark Knight, it still doesn't get nominated. But most superhero movies don't get nominated because they aren't good enough to get nominated.

IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#44: Jan 24th 2018 at 11:25:28 AM

Of the past 10 years, 2 have had a superhero movie as #1 in the box office. Saying popular movies don't win anymore because all popular movies are superhero movies and most superhero movies are bad is flawed logic at every step.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#45: Jan 24th 2018 at 11:43:53 AM

It is really arguably if The Dark Knight as a whole was award worthy (and remember, that was the last year in which there were only five nominees). It is one of Nolan's weaker movies - not that the academy is particularly into Nolan either. I think this year is his first nomination for directing. The only thing I am kind of p... about is that every single year there is at least one MCU movie nominated for visual effects and then gets passed over, even when they present something the audience has never seen before.

Though I do think that the Academy will one day have to acknowledge the MCU as a whole with a special Academy Award. You just can't ignore something which had such a profound influence on the movie industry completely. Not that Marvel cares. Most of the time they don't even do "for your consideration" campaigns. To be frank, they don't need those awards, they already rake in all the cash in the world without them.

edited 24th Jan '18 11:44:43 AM by Swanpride

jamespolk Since: Aug, 2012
#46: Jan 24th 2018 at 11:52:59 AM

[up][up]Well, I guess that's true in the sense that we aren't just getting bad superhero movies, we are getting other kinds of bad franchise films.

Top 10 of 2017:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2017

So we've got five superhero movies, and Wonder Woman is the only one anybody can halfway suggest as deserving a nomination...I liked The Last Jedi but do any of those films deserve an Oscar nomination?

edited 24th Jan '18 11:54:58 AM by jamespolk

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#47: Jan 24th 2018 at 11:53:11 AM

The Oscars vent been about a money boost in forever.

And seriously? You think the MCU deserves a special Oscar ?

It is by and large a collection of solid enjoyable action comedies most of which are about as deep as a wading pool. Them eventually coming together in a giant crossover is not Oscar worthy. If this actually happens the award”ll lose what little respect it stil has.

[up] I for one am entirely on board with the popular choice not being the Oscar shoo in anymore. Otherwise movies like Moonlight or Spotlight would’ve had slim to bupkiss shits of winning

edited 24th Jan '18 11:54:51 AM by thatindiantroper

jamespolk Since: Aug, 2012
#48: Jan 24th 2018 at 11:57:12 AM

2016: four superhero movies in the top ten, three mediocre animated films. Maybe you can make a half a case for Deadpool, otherwise you have to go down to #19 and La La Land for a movie that anybody would think deserved a nomination.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2016&view=releasedate&view2=domestic&sort=gross&order=DESC&&p=.htm

2015, actually only one superhero movie, but still, mostly crap. The Martian did get nominated. Inside Out probably should have.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2015&view=releasedate&view2=domestic&sort=gross&order=DESC&&p=.htm

Seems like the answer isn't that the Oscars are ignoring hit movies, it's that the hit movies, whether superhero movies or other franchise films, are mostly crap.

edited 24th Jan '18 12:00:06 PM by jamespolk

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#49: Jan 24th 2018 at 12:00:44 PM

You can make half a case for Deadpool ?

And did you just call Zootopia mediocre ?

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#50: Jan 24th 2018 at 12:07:06 PM

Titanic and Avatar are really far worse than most MCU fare (and particularly both Thor Ragnarok and GOTG Vol 2 are far better films), so the criticism at work doesn't really function.

This isn't really a new phenomenon either, given the same year we had Return of The King we had both Matrix sequels, Terminator 3, Bruce Almighty and Steve Carrell's Cheaper by Dozen. The same year Forrest Gump was released Dumb and Dumber Too, The Santa Clause and The Flinstones movie were among the top 10.

In fact, 1994, the year of Forrest Gump, had the Oscars completely overlook Léon: The Professional, one of the best movies of the decade which was quite popular, so snubs aren't new either.

edited 24th Jan '18 12:08:56 PM by Gaon

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