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The Disney/Fox Deal: Questions and Consequences

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123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#1701: Jul 16th 2019 at 1:48:22 PM

I guess that's a win for the Murdoch.

OldLadyNightMan Since: May, 2018 Relationship Status: Hiding
#1702: Jul 16th 2019 at 2:02:46 PM

Looking some of the next Fox releases, I'm predicting weak results. The Art of Racing in the Rain is one of those dog movies, which has seen diminishing box office returns, Ad Astra and Ford vs. Ferrari look like the types of films that people claim they want but don't actually go see, and Spies in Disguise might be a victim of getting slotted in the crowded holiday season.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1703: Jul 16th 2019 at 3:08:06 PM

They didn't buy Fox because they thought Stuber was going to be a hit.

Well, I thought Stuber looks hilarious. (Haven't seen it yet due to financial concerns.)

(*pouts*)

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1704: Jul 23rd 2019 at 2:29:54 PM

Bump.

Contrary to rumors, Emma Watts is staying with Fox/Disney.

And now that she's given oversight of the Avatar movies, we should expect the next Deadpool movie to be a Marvel Studios venture since Deadpool and the other Marvel stuff Fox had dibs on are going straight to Kevin Feige.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:12:53 AM

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#1705: Jul 23rd 2019 at 8:08:41 PM

Some wondered if she would maintain control over those rights evidently not.

Just Makima.
Packer Since: Aug, 2013
#1706: Jul 25th 2019 at 7:55:55 AM

Fox Animation co-president Andrea Miloro is stepping down and it looks like Disney is evaluating Blue Sky's position in the company.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1707: Jul 25th 2019 at 8:40:50 AM

[up] That's...problematic. sad

I mean, yeah, most of Blue Sky's stuff tend to be on the mediocre side of things, but I'm sure there were some gems, like The Peanuts Movie.

Plus, there's still Nimona...

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 25th 2019 at 11:44:43 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#1709: Jul 31st 2019 at 11:49:23 PM

Please Please PLEASE dont cancel Nimona Disney!

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
Packer Since: Aug, 2013
#1710: Aug 1st 2019 at 2:27:37 PM

The layoffs continue, and the Fox Research Library is also getting the ax.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#1711: Aug 7th 2019 at 5:14:19 AM

Bob Iger on 3rd Quarter loss. What did he mean by this?

Just Makima.
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1712: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:26:13 AM

A lot of people knew that this would happen given that Fox's film slate would be bad this year. The fact that Iger was a bit overly optimistic about it doesn't help.

That being said, by announcing that Disney would take a more direct role in green-lighting Fox films, Iger just signaled anything from Fox in the next several years that's not attached to an IP and in early production will likely be on the back-burner indefinitely, if not canned entirely. Seems only Fox Searchlight and the TV units can breathe easily here.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 7th 2019 at 11:27:54 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#1713: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:33:33 AM

I mean, Iger probably also knew that Disney would lose money on the deal initially, so they could use it as a tax write-off. If the amount they paid is significantly more than the amount they earned, then their write-off could be huge and they would still make billions later on from Fox's IPs.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1714: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:45:14 AM

I still wonder what this means for Nimona. Disney pushed it to March 2021, but before that, Fox scheduled it for February 2020, which means it should be 80-90% ready by now, so...

What'll happen to it?

OldLadyNightMan Since: May, 2018 Relationship Status: Hiding
#1715: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:23:42 PM

[up][up][up] And to all of the people on the internet who complain about how Hollywood hardly makes any new films not based on anything, well, too bad. Maybe if they actually have seen stuff like Bad Times at the El Royale or Stuber, Fox wouldn't have to be forced to near-exclusively focus on established IP.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1716: Aug 7th 2019 at 5:33:46 PM

[up] And even then, a lot of their adaptations turned out from “eh” at best to “no thank you” at worst.

(* Glares at Alvin & the Chipmunks and Dragonball Evolution.*)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 7th 2019 at 8:35:49 AM

MrScout101 Since: Jan, 2015
#1717: Aug 9th 2019 at 12:35:53 PM

Looks like Disney is further integrating Blue Sky, because Disney Animation president Andrew Millstein has been named as Andrea Miloro's replacement.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#1718: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:42:21 PM

[up]Wouldn't surprise me if Disney moves to sever whatever ties Blue Sky had with Fox entirely and move it over to the Disney Animation banner as a whole.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1719: Aug 9th 2019 at 2:56:01 PM

[up][up]: Oh, thank God.

[up]: Yeah, while Fox movies tended to get their money back, that was more because they were prioritizing finances over quality of product. Blue Sky had some modest critical hits, but also a lot of critical misses that still manage to make back their budget and then some (*glances at Ice Age pentalogy*).

I wouldn't be surprised if Blue Sky gets refitted so that it reaches the same standard as the usual WDAS and Pixar fare. It could fill that niche of economically-minded (like less than $150 million budgeted) movie that manages to get away with stuff a WDAS or Pixar movie can't.

On a somewhat related note, I notice that Disney kind of owns Boom! Studios via the minority stake Fox had. I wonder about the likelihood of Disney using any of the content from Boom! Studios and its various imprints (Tyson Hesse's Diesel, Ruinworld, Lumberjanes, and Giant Days maybe?) later down the line. Maybe as stuff Blue Sky could do?

(And yes, I am semi-aware that the whole "minority stake" aspect does make that scenario very unlikely.)


Incidentally, if Blue Sky did The Peanuts Movie, will it appear on Disney+ even though Peanuts content will be coming exclusively to Apple TV+?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 9th 2019 at 5:58:16 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#1720: Aug 9th 2019 at 3:06:41 PM

God, I would kill for a Giant Days adaptation. Maybe a Disney+ show?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1721: Aug 9th 2019 at 3:27:10 PM

[up] As would I. Though I'm not sure if it could fit as a Disney+ show since there are a couple of sexual references and affairs in some parts.

Maybe as a Hulu cartoon?

Then again, The Simpsons is going to be on Disney+, so what do I know? tongue

ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#1722: Aug 13th 2019 at 9:36:42 AM

Speaking of which, what are they going to do about Itchy and Scratchy? The Simpsons has often used Itchy and Scratchy to make fun of the animation industry, and now that they're owned by Disney—a company that's VERY protective of its image—will they still be allowed to do that?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#1723: Aug 13th 2019 at 9:39:40 AM

The Simpsons is making fun of Disney right now, so I think they are going to be fine.

ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#1724: Aug 13th 2019 at 9:43:53 AM

https://variety.com/2019/film/features/fox-disney-earnings-dark-phoenix-stuber-racing-in-the-rain-1203300260/?fbclid=IwAR3gib7Lcwl2-3TiyJt3IcofFRKfMO-5-zgdLiHdPFXeHecPpigaCuVQfDU

Also, if this article is to be believed, Disney is canceling all of Fox's upcoming movies that don't have franchise potential, or releasing them on Hulu.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#1725: Aug 13th 2019 at 10:01:37 AM

Also, if this article is to be believed, Disney is canceling all of Fox's upcoming movies that don't have franchise potential, or releasing them on Hulu.
No, they are cancelling everything that is in development, but the stuff that is already in pre-production is still going forward. Where it will end up, we don't know, but there are certain movies that they've already advertised to theaters, like Ad Astra.


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