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I am not sure if Disney wants to keep the Fox name (or even has the option). Fox news is still operating after all. I mean, they might end up labelling Fox "20th century studios" just to be NOT associated with Fox news.
I think they could get a pretty good price for Blue Sky now. After all the studio got an academy award nomination just last year. And I can think of a lot of people who might be interested aside from Paramount....there is Sony which might want an animation studio under its umbrella which doesn't have the reputation to suck, always (not that Blue Sky's work is brilliant, but it is at least considered a decent watch for children), and there is pretty much everyone else who want into the streaming market and is looking for animated content. And that includes Netflix, btw, but I doubt that Netflix has currently access to this kind of money.
I remember hearing that from an independent content creator (whose name escape me) that had intimate connection to the industry. The particular clause of the deal is still going though, and can vary widely on how the government's decision.
Another thing, the fact that Disney now own 60% of Hulu is still crazy and confusing for me. Will their new streaming service cannibalize Hulu? Or will they just put the "adult" content on Hulu and leave the new service as family-friendly?
edited 26th Dec '17 1:06:39 PM by shatterstar
Sooooo. Did anyone like Alien: Covenant and were looking forward to a part 2?
Was anyone nervous the Disney/Fox deal would put the kibosh on any more Alien movies?
Because it might really be game over, man.
(Alternatively, if no one was into Covenant to begin with, then I guess there'll be much rejoicing?)
I don't care about Covenant so I don't care about its cancellation.
Continue writing our story of peace.
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: So that'll be two for "and there was much rejoicing," then. Excellent choice, friends.
So I guess you guys weren't particularly interested in Niell Blomkamp's proposed Alien 5 either?
Because if you were, my condolences to your loss since Fox had no faith in that project and stuck with Covenant. Can you say "Fox shot themselves in the foot"?
I'm not rejoicing. Alien Prequel cancellation does not benefit me at all, but it may makes the prequel fans sad.
Continue writing our story of peace."There aren't many fans to begin with."
edited 26th Dec '17 8:00:33 PM by RAlexa21th
Continue writing our story of peace.I am not rejoicing either. It is not like it hurt me in any way if there is another Alien or not. I simply don't care, just like I don't care about most bad movies or Zombie franchises aside from an occasional eye-roll.
In the context of the deal one has to consider that a lot of those properties and franchises Disney get aren't necessarily still big money makers. I mean, it is certainly great to have the rights of Home Alone, but it is not like this is a franchise you can milk with more and more movies. Aliens is a little bit more viable, but it would need at the very least a soft reboot in capable hands.
This is one of the things that is likely to happen occasionally now. Fox was trying to find a new (yes I know Alien’s been around for ages, but the push to make it a big thing again is pretty recent) huge franchise, but there’s no point if the company is being sold. So stuff like Alien, where the response is kind of all over the place and the box office is middling on average, is going to get the chopping block because, why bother trying to force a franchise if Disney is just going to get it anyway?
Especially since Ridley Scott really isn’t a sure bet anymore. Like at all. For every Martian he makes, there’s like three Exodus: Gods and Kings.
I really doubt that Fox will change much on account of the deal, not yet at least. The Alien Franchise was pretty much on its last leg already. I also don't think that there will be another Kingsmen movie since the last one had diminishing returns.
Disney or no Disney, Fox really needs something new and inventive in terms of Franchises. The only thing they currently have going on which might yield long term success outside of the Marvel movies are the Avatar movies, and they aren't a save bet my any means.
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Kingsman 3 already got announced. I'm guessing someone higher-up really likes that series. Whether or not it makes it to release is another question.
And they won't cancel Avatar no matter what. Disney kind of dropped the ball getting Avatar for Disney World (not having predicted how the whole buzz around the movie just straight-up died like eight months after it came out), so they're clearly going to want it to be a huge thing again.
Fox just doesn't have a reason to try and force a huge franchise out of something where it isn't really working.
edited 27th Dec '17 10:28:56 AM by Zendervai
The relevant part starts at 15:54:
Basically, The Mysterious Mr. Enter compares the deal to the late stage of Monopoly: once someone takes the lead, no-one else stands a chance against them, and the rest of the game is everyone else circling the drain until the leader's inevitable victory. Now, I want to be optimistic about this deal, and see 20th Century FOX to grow into a welcome member of the Disney family without losing its integrity, like Marvel and Star Wars did, but hearing about these potential downsides has me concerned. Not helping things is the deal eerily coinciding with the recent Net Neutrality business, another controversial deal that more obviously reeks of seizing control and crushing competition (Now, I'm certainly not saying the two deals are related or serve the same purpose, although that sounds like perfect fodder for an episode of South Park).
Thoughts?
I miss you.Once again, the FCC needs to block the merger because it's against their media ownership rules—both Disney and Fox own rival networks, rival movie studios, rival sports networks, etc. Not to mention, Fox has licensed some of its properties (most notably The Simpsons) to Disney's longtime theme park rival Universal.
In short, Disney really should only buy back the X-Men film rights from Fox.
