She-Ra and the Princesses of Power

I brainstormed a possible Christmas Crossover Special before Masters of the Universe: Revelations was gonna be a thing! Now I want it to be a thing again!

(Also, the SYFY Wire article mentioning AJ Michalka working with Kevin Smith and The Goldbergs made me realize Catra is Lainey. Literally did not know that until now.)

I do not think there will be a Christmas special, but I do think a crossover between the 2 shows would be fun though.

Edited by Overlord on Oct 6th 2019 at 7:56:20 AM

Why the hell is Mattel so hellbent on these two properties not crossing over?

Apparently we're also getting a Boys Night Out starring Bow, Sea Hawk, and Swift Wind.

Rights mostly. They don’t want to share with anyone else, and they control the new MOTU from the ground up, while Dreamworks has the She-Ra license.

Octavia has gotten a few cameo's But I would like a few more of the Horde's members to show up.

The original version of Double Trouble was the Rebellion Spy in the Horde. (Also Glimmer's Cousin.)

I'm still betting that Mattel screwed up the She-Ra license and lost control over the adaptions, so they're still sore about that. I find it hard to believe that if Mattel still had creative control, they'd allow explicitly gay or nonbinary characters.

Yay! Thirteen episodes is great.

In hindsight I really think splitting 2A and 2B hurt the shows pacing for 2A especially.

Mattel, traditionally, has acknowledged every single MOTU series, comic, and has even produced toys from un-produced series pitches like He-Ro. However, in every case, Mattel has retained ownership of the property in some form or fashion. Considering the She-Ra rights were tied up in the Classic Media purchase, yes, I do imagine the direction Noelle took the series is quite different than what they wanted to do, especially given how differently that She-Ra is portrayed in the DC comic series they had a far more direct hand in.

Which is why I’m pretty sure SPOP will probably once its final 13 episodes air (only 13 left on the order) Mattel is going to pretend the series never happened. Mostly because it goes so far against everything they did with the character that to use this as the new normal would require such a massive reshuffling of the deck as to be incompatible with their ideas.

To use a random example, the series bible for the un-produced He-Ro show established that Adora married Sea Hawk and they had a child together, the titular He-Ro, and their disappearance was supposed to be a major plot point and explain why He-Ro could use the power of Grayskull. That is so not an option in SPOP. Not to mention the upcoming film that’s supposed to bring the franchise out from the 80’s nostalgia, which seems to be a goal only Hasbro has successfully accomplished.

All that being said, you’re telling me you wouldn’t want to see the Powerhouse animated anime as hell He-Man, looking like he leapt out of a Frank Frazetta painting or a page of Berserk, and a Teela that’s going to look like a supermodel or Red Sonja interacting with the cutesy and super diverse cast of SPOP? It would be amazing regardless. Whenever we do get to see the final designs for MOTU Revelations, I want the fan artists working overtime on hilarious crossover art.

Is it me or does it seem like companies have gotten much more petty and spiteful over licencing in recent years?

(thinks back to the month when Spider-Man was out of the MCU)

Oh dear god, it is definitely not just you.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Oct 7th 2019 at 9:53:58 AM

Hey, so do we wanna do the thing where we all agree to only talk abut episode one the day it launches, episode two the next day and so on? Because I think that actually worked to keep the conversation focused the time we did it. Otherwise we have a bunch of people who have watched all thirteen episodes on day one talking only about the finale, while the people who haven't seen it yet have to keep away from the thread entirely to avoid spoilers.

I can't imagine any way else to discuss batch shows like the way Netflix does it. It's hard to have a discourse when anyone can spoil stuff you've not seen yet.

You could also spoiler tag and warn they're leaked spoilers in the normally visible text? Or just use the other thread. Both work.

...Wrong thread. I was thinking of the Friendship is Magic group. Derp. But yeah, see the first sentence on how to resolve this issue. If we have one season left, it's probably not fruitful to make a completely new thread for spoiler/leak talk only. But that's something worth seeing opinions on here. We are allowed to make threads like that anyway.

Edited by Irene on Oct 7th 2019 at 2:58:56 PM

I wonder how long before Hordak figures out that Catra lied about Entrapta betraying him.

When Scorpia works up the courage to tell him or Entrapta breaks in riding a Beast Island monster, whichever comes first.

There aren't any leaked episodes, and there probably won't be any. The problem is that there are going to be 13 episodes released on the same day. Because of this we're liable to get people who watch all 13 episodes in day one, then post stuff up to and including the finale. This means that people will have to finish watching all 13 episodes before they can read the thread without spoilers. And no, putting every single post behind spoiler tags wouldn't help anything.

When Season 2 dropped we agreed to only talk about episode one on the day of release, then episode two the next day, and so on. It actually worked well and it kept the conversation focused. It also ensured that every episode was given a chance to be discussed.

Wait, is this the last season?

No. There's still one more season left. When they say there are '13 more episodes on the order', they're referring to the season after this one. (Though it would be nice if they remembered to clarify.)

No. The show was originally going to be four 13 episodes seasons. Season 2 got cut in half to become season 2 and 3. We still have two sets of 13 episodes to go. We're going to get 13 episodes in early November and then we'll still have another 13 episodes left after that. This is why I wish the people who distribute shows would keep the Season breaks made by the people who actually make the shows. Voltron had similar problems. 3 seasons got cut up into 8.

Edited by WillKeaton on Oct 7th 2019 at 8:12:04 AM

Yeah, sorry about that.

The order was for 52 episodes and this upcoming season brings it to 39. My guess is we’re going to see the final 13 episodes no later than March so as to leave a clean slate for the big He-Man anime, and not to invite unnecessary comparisons between the two. Not to mention if for whatever reason Mattel can use another version of She-Ra, having Princesses of Power airing next to an Animesque She-Ra ripped from Record of Lodoss War would create some very weird optics (and Mattel has been releasing classic She-Ra storybooks through Golden Books, so make of that what you will).

Yeah, I seriously hope we can stick to episode-per-day posting. I beseech you guys, if for some reason you really need to write about later episodes then ^note  do it like this. That's [[note]], then text, then [[/note]] And put warning beforehand.

What's wrong with spoiler tags?

Some people go everywhere with spoiler tags turned off and wont bother to keep switching them every time they check a thread. With note that you have to click there is no way to spoil yourself by accident.

Edited by Sunchet on Jun 10th 2021 at 6:08:32 PM

Also, if say, you have watched the first three episodes and come here, you still won't be able to read any of the posts because you have no way of knowing what's behind the spoiler tags, since any one of them could be talking about the final episode.

The system worked the one time we tried it and people were happy with it. If it had been a disaster that would be another story, but really went smoothly for the most part.