She-Ra and the Princesses of Power

My guess is they take the tone of the comics, which never quite divorced itself from the Frank Frazetta/Conan influence. So having a final story in the vein of The Hour of the Dragon for He-Man could work. Could.

Edited by Beatman1 on Aug 19th 2019 at 2:27:43 PM

I assume you mean the original comics that predate the show and were used to advertise the toys, because there have been a lot of other comics since and some of them got really dark.

Yes, I do. In fact those comics for the originals continued after the cartoon ended, with King Hiss and friends and “The Mystery of Keldor!” That tone, updated could work.

Keep in mind when we first see the disguised Adam in those comics he is fully embracing his disguise of being a Rich Idiot With No Day Job, showing up to parties with a woman on each arm. Cartoon Adam probably wouldn’t do that.

It looks like Catra is not going to get a happy ending just like John Wick. Imagine if those two team up to set things right with the wrong they've brought on themselves from their respective Fatal Flaws. For him, it should take place after Parabellum.

I made the story right here.

To be honest, I can't help but feel excitement for John Wick/She-Ra reboot crossover.

Yeah,OK we know,you dont need to keep telling us!

Someone mentioned a possible loophole with the whole He-Man thing. Ok, main line He-Man is out and so are his villains. But what about this guy?

New Adventures isn’t ideal, but it offers A He-Man, as well as Flogg and his mutant raiders, who presumably aren’t in high demand for other He-Man projects. Even if He-Man is off-off limits, Flogg and friends easily fill that “actual evil villain” that’s sorely needed given what’s going on with Hordak.

Edited by Beatman1 on Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:19:07 AM

Yikes

https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/08/22/rumor-netflix-axes-she-ra-and-the-princesses-of-power/

That’s a rumor, and it’s a circumstantial one rather than one based on a potential announcement. Let’s break it down one piece at a time and see how they got from Point A to Point B.

It is true that a lot of key staff are listing this show in the past tense. That could mean that they finished their part of the show. Given how animation lead time works, they could have finished all 52 episodes and simply moved on. It’s a lot more worrying if it a show hasn’t debuted and the work of a showrunner is listed in the past tense, but that’s clearly not the case here.

It’s also true that Netflix has let go of several people in charge of developing original Western animation and their kids and family division, but that could point to the inability of other shows like The Dragon Prince to get a substantial audience. As far as publicly available ratings metadata available, we don’t know what Netflix has, and the closest thing we do, that poll where She-Ra was nowhere to be found, isn’t ironclad.

That of course leads to the elephant in the room with the bowl cut. The Masters of the Universe series. While Mattel has tossed plenty of shade at She-Ra, they also started producing a toyline for it, even if it is under a very limited distribution deal. Furthermore, the target audiences are very different. The idea that Mattel hired Kevin Smith to make a show to legally absolve them of their obligation to let She-Ra air sounds funny in that corporate espionage kind of way, but has no evidence supporting it. Both shows could probably easily coexist.

Essentially their reporting relies on a lot of guesswork to get from Point A to Point B rather than a cited source. Unless She-Ra is MIA at NYCC while Mattel shows off their series with its Frank Frazetta inspired art for everyone, I think this is a case of correlation not equaling causation.

FYI, Bounding Into Comics is not a reliable news website. They either make stuff up or twist facts into fitting their viewpoint, such as there.

Bounding Into Comics is a Comicsgate propaganda website. Don’t trust them by ANY measure.

In a case like this where a rumor is presented, it’s probably better to deconstruct said rumor than to go after the messenger. Now the people they cite do list sources (Deadline reported the firing of those Netflix executives and those staff members have listed this job in the past tense on their own publicly available CV’s) but those facts are used to draw a conclusion that doesn’t necessarily result from those items. The old adage about how causation doesn’t equal correlation.

NYCC is in October. We’ll probably know more about Season 4 plans then.

If the messenger has a persistent history of targeted harassment campaigns then it’s absolutely imperative to question a rumor they report that lines up with their ideology.

Rae Geiger (character designer on She-Ra):

"when u did work all the way through the final episodes and they're so beautiful and amazing and make you cry and u hear from the internet that ur project is actually cancelled early" 🙄

Never trust Comicsgators.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 23rd 2019 at 3:47:29 AM

I skimmed a bit. Did we have any information about Season 4 other than what Season 3 naturally showed?

Now I know not to trust Comicsgate people/websites. They're annoying and I'm sick of it. The fact that Rae Geiger had to step in and say something speaks volumes.

No but NYCC is still a month and a half away. We’ll probably hear something then.

The sooner the better~

Also, I feel like we could've had more alternate universe stuff. It felt too short at the end. We had, what, literally one alternate universe? I hope they explore this concept more.

I wouldn't even call it a rumor, I'd call it a guess.

The same site had a guess (based on some dicey analysis of Google Trends) that Star Trek: Discovery was doing badly, despite CBS pouring millions into a 3rd season plus developing several other Trek shows.

If I had to guess, I'd say She-Ra is near or at completion which is why they're looking for other work and Noelle Stevenson went on vacation (as seen in her Twitter). This isn't a show that's going to go on forever; it's going to get 52 episodes and stop. We're already halfway through.

Based on that reply it sounds like they're finishing work on the final episodes, so I would absolutely expect people to look for new work with She-Ra done.

Edited by WillKeaton on Aug 23rd 2019 at 8:17:13 AM

@ Beatman1, I would trust Bounding into Comics for nerd news as much as I would trust Info Wars for real news, not at all, they both spread misinformation for an alt-right agenda.

That being said, I agree with your analysis on She-Ra and Netflix, She-Ra has Dream Works backing it up, so I think its pretty much a lock that it will finish its run on Netflix. Dream Works is not involved with the new He-Man cartoon, maybe Mattel wants to make the Masters of the Universe a big thing again, saw that the She-Ra show was doing well and decided to bring back He-Man. This franchise has been dormant from 2004 to 2018.

However I kinda disagree with the idea that Flogg and the mutants would make for a good example of evil villains for She-Ra to fight, Flogg was just a pawn of Skeletor, who was the real villain of that show, the show ends with Flogg signing a peace treaty with the humans and attacking Skeletor. Flogg seems better as a misguided villain who is at war with humans and She-Ra is able to bring peace to both sides, maybe a member of the Horde manipulating Flogg. However, Mara is from the New Adventures of He-Man and she has shown up in the She-Ra cartoon.

Like I said, several Horde members, have not shown up yet, like Mantenna, Leech and Modulok. They could be Horde Prime's psychopathic lieutenants and elite strike force. Just because Skeletor and King Hiss are off the table, doesn't mean they can't make someone like Leech (who was a non-entity in the 1985 cartoon) into a menacing evil villain, considering he is similar to a vampire.

On the He-Man tip, Kevin Smith talks about his new series on his podcast Fatman Beyond. Specifically, he pushes back on a few things -

1. He pushed back on the idea that this will be a gore-filled “EXTREME” reboot. While it will be more mature in content and context, no one on staff wants to make something filled with MA violence and innuendo. The people he is working with are huge MOTU fans and don’t want to do that.

2. Smith hasn’t made things besides Mallrats.

3. The idea show is somehow meant to be pitted against She-Ra is debunked. Everyone on the staff has nothing but nice things to say about She-Ra.

4. That the series will be focused primarily on Teela and He-Man will be an Advertised Extra was shot down. He flat out says people shouldn’t worry, and that Teela was an important character but He-Man/Adam will still be the star (leading to my theory it’s going to be the two of them as the main focus kinda like the 2002 series did).

NDA’s have forced Smith to keep silent on a lot for now though.

Edited by Beatman1 on Aug 24th 2019 at 9:25:44 AM

I think a lot of people are gonna be mad about Teela getting more focus than Adam/He-Man. But hey, the show is called Masters of the Universe: Revelation, not He-Man: Revelation.

I'm surprised that the show will be gore-filled (and possibly aimed for adult audiences) since the original 80s show was quite campy. Kidscreen (a website that exclusively covers kid property news) reported on MOTU:R. I guess they didn't think that the show would be more like Castlevania (2017) and less like the more kid-friendly She-Ra and the Princesses of Power.

Smith said that wasn’t going to be the case, and that people shouldn’t be worried that He-Man will be minimized. He also said they weren’t going to go Bloodier and Gorier. Sorry if that came out confusing.

Edited by Beatman1 on Aug 24th 2019 at 9:05:18 AM

Uh...

It says it right there. If that isn't what they meant to say, then you might want to take that bit out.

Edited by kkhohoho on Aug 24th 2019 at 8:17:03 AM