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Zendervai Eccentric Dreamer from St. Catharines Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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Jan 19th 2018 at 7:59:06 PM

[up][up] I think they went for the complicated character designs because of their minuscule animation budget. If the designs were simpler, most of their shows would have been outright unwatchable. Cause even their stuff with simpler designs used to be barely animated.

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Jan 19th 2018 at 10:57:29 PM

[up]Kind of like Anime in that regard.

Jan 20th 2018 at 9:20:53 AM

[up]Most anime has nothing on Filmation. Hell, one of the few times Filmation outsourced to a Japanese studio (TMS) for their Zorro cartoon (not the Zorro anime, that's an entirely different and far more hilarious beast with a way better theme song) the difference in quality was massive.

Although Filmation was actually doing it because they had a "People before art" policy where they normally refused to outsource to protect the jobs of its employees. (Zorro ended up with a few people quitting over the outsourcing issue).

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Jan 20th 2018 at 10:42:06 AM

I'll give Filmation some credit for their work policies and (sometimes) their writing. They were the only studio that wasn't suggesting that the animated Star Trek show be basically a Hanna-Barbara thing. But they were a terrible animation studio. Like, anime cuts costs a lot, but there aren't very many anime series where you get entire strings of episodes cobbled together entirely from reused animation with different backgrounds. Which Filmation actually did do on a lot of their stuff.

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Jan 20th 2018 at 2:07:36 PM

[up] Yeah have to agree. The studio was pretty much Next Level Hannah Barbara in terms of recycled animation. Which is ironic as during the 80s Hannah Barbaraís quality of animations improved and used far less recycle backgrounds and animation.

The saving grace has to go to their character designs as inspite of me noticing the obvious reuse I still like the look of the characters in said frames.

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Jan 20th 2018 at 5:33:31 PM

Believe it or not, the Filmation He-Man cartoons were the most expensive domestically produced cartoons of their era. The story is supposed to be that most of the money went to paying Union animator salaries (which, they say, is the reason why so much animation work is done overseas), and thus the animation itself had to be cut.

Jan 20th 2018 at 6:21:57 PM

[up]Speaking of Crappy Filmation Animation, Wander Over Yonder did a beautiful recreation of it, in the Episode "The Cartoon".

It's completely period accurate, down to the physical painted backgrounds, and non-digital limited Animation. I believe one of the painted background plates actually has a strand of dog hair embedded into it.

edited 20th Jan '18 6:33:04 PM by megaeliz

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Jan 20th 2018 at 8:27:52 PM

Some of that was too good to be Filmation. Like the...I dunno how to say it...but its also evocative of Thundercats which had a similar effect which I dunno how to describe.

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Jan 21st 2018 at 9:28:15 AM

[up] here's the Thundercats Opening for reference. The visuals do sort of have that vibe, don't they? Especially in the beginning. (although Thundercats is much better animated, if insanely 80s. Looks almost Anime-ish.)

My favorite thing about that episode has to be the contrast between the show's very smooth and fluid animation and the extremely limited animation (7-12 FPS maybe) of the actual cartoon. The character Animation in the foreground this episode feels especially fluid, probably to play up the contrast.

edited 28th Jan '18 6:25:43 PM by megaeliz

Jan 22nd 2018 at 12:06:44 PM

[up] Thundercats (along with most of Rankin-Bass's hand-drawn animated projects, like The Hobbit, and The Last Unicorn) was animated by a Japenese Company named Topcraft (which also produced Nausicaa and the Valley of the Wind and Macross: Do You Rememeber Love?), which split when it went bankrupt in 1985; half of the studio became Pacific Animation Corporation, which continued to provide animation for Rankin Bass, and the other half became Studio Ghibli (Pacific eventually went on to join Studio Ghibli anyway). So the anime feel is perhaps understandable. While it's definitely what we'd describe as anime-influenced, Topcraft's work for Rankin-Bass had it's own distinct look.

The Thundercats opening is a beautiful piece of action animation. It's a shame the animation in episode was never quite that good, but that's kind of seen as indicative of the era, as well. The best animation to be seen on a show was frequently in it's opening. Check out The Mighty Orbots, and Galaxy Rangers for some other examples.

edited 22nd Jan '18 12:12:46 PM by Robbery

J79
Jan 22nd 2018 at 2:26:35 PM

Re: Filmation. I'd argue that their best work, animation-wise, might have been Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night. It's not perfect by any means, but it's definitely higher-quality than their tv work (with some pretty nightmarish scenes and imagery). Bravestarr: The Legend is also pretty good (better quality than the tv series).

edited 22nd Jan '18 2:27:11 PM by J79

May 18th 2018 at 9:45:53 AM

Cast announcement and first poster. Very talented voice cast.

edited 18th May '18 9:46:00 AM by comicwriter

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May 18th 2018 at 10:45:51 AM

For those who don't want to click the link:

Aimee Carrero as Adora/She-Ra

Jordan Fisher as Seahawk

Marcus Scribner as Bow

Lorraine Toussaint as Shadow Weaver

Sandra Oh as Castaspella

Karen Fukuhara (Suicide Squad) as Glimmer

AJ Michalka (The Goldbergs) as Catra

Reshma Shetty (Royal Pains) as Angella

Keston John (The Good Place) as Hordak

Lauren Ash (Superstore) as Scorpia

Christine Woods (Hello Ladies) as Entrapta

Genesis Rodriguez (Time After Time) as Perfuma

Vella Lovell (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend) as Mermista

Merit Leighton (Katie and Alexa) as Frosta

Krystal Joy Brown (Motown: The Musical) as Netossa

Also, the poster is doing what Voltron: Legendary Defender did and is showing a teasing silhouette of the person/thing of interest (in this case, it's She-Ra who is silhouette'd). That said, it's a very effective poster as it makes me want to see the whole thing. I wonder if the character designs will reflect Noelle Stevenson's art style. Incidentally, it also makes me want to have Thor: Ragnarok vibes.

We also have confirmation that the official title is She-Ra and The Princesses of Power.

edited 18th May '18 10:46:47 AM by TargetmasterJoe

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J79
May 20th 2018 at 6:12:38 AM

So I guess we're not getting any of the "monster" Horde members (Mantenna, Leech, Grizzlor, Modulok), at least not yet

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May 22nd 2018 at 1:13:55 PM

Among them, not many felt like they did much. Mantenna was a bit more notable and active. Rest, not as much. We still got the key ones otherwise, like Shadow Weaver.

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J79
May 24th 2018 at 12:42:02 PM

I think it would be interesting if Shadow Weaver ends up being the leader of the Horde in this incarnation.

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May 26th 2018 at 3:28:41 PM

So, couple things:

  • 1) I (somehow) didn't realize She-Ra was wearing short shorts in the poster until the TV Tropes page had an entry for Modesty Shorts and still couldn't see them until I really zoomed in on the poster. Kudos to the troper who put that entry in because you have eagle eyes!
  • 2) You guys think we'll see any references to He-Man, or will it be like the Venom movie and ergo, there'll be no connections to the thing they came from.
  • 3) When do you guys reckon we'll see a trailer showing more of the show's look? Because a while back, I saw artwork that looked like it would be legit, but it's dated December 19, 2017. It's fake, isn't it?

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May 26th 2018 at 3:32:21 PM

If they're doing a She Ra reboot a He man reboot will definitely be considered,it's effectively testing the waters

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May 26th 2018 at 3:53:51 PM

Thatís your Season 1 finale. Skeletor invades and cleans house until He-Man shows up. I would do it the other way around with He-Man first but what do I know?

edited 26th May '18 3:54:17 PM by Beatman1

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May 26th 2018 at 3:55:19 PM

They could do a full reversal and have She-Ra save He-Man from Skeletor.

edited 26th May '18 3:55:27 PM by Zeromaeus

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May 26th 2018 at 3:58:37 PM

[up]Actually Secret of The Sword (She-Raís Origin) had her save him from Hordack when he went to find her. Him saving her would be a full reversal.

Unless you mean have He-Man/Adam be one of Skeletorís generals.

edited 26th May '18 3:59:08 PM by Beatman1

"That's right kid. Never play an ace when a two will do."
May 26th 2018 at 5:19:27 PM

1) I (somehow) didn't realize She-Ra was wearing short shorts

Nope, I had to squint to notice that too. It's pretty chic.

You guys think we'll see any references to He-Man, or will it be like the Venom movie and ergo, there'll be no connections to the thing they came from

I suspect it's going to be the latter because of the casting list.

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May 26th 2018 at 8:11:45 PM

@Targetmaster Joe I'm pretty sure the artwork is real, from a crew member that slipped up. People just colored it since the original was black and white. It also matches in some areas with the poster.

Jul 14th 2018 at 12:01:05 PM

[up][up][up]The odds of them doing a show centered around a female protagonist and having her needing to be saved by a dude in the finale aren't very high.

She-Ra's design more clearly.

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Jul 14th 2018 at 1:48:49 PM

Nice, I like that a lot.


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