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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#4676: Jan 12th 2018 at 11:32:54 AM

Middle version: The Starkiller Base deconstruction should've caused the First Order to slow down instead of marching onward like nothing had happen. Basically it's like watching a Lord of Rings movie where you spend two hours watching the heroes worrying about Orcs after they just destroyed the one ring of power.

I think you might actually be overestimating how much the First Order was dependent on Starkiller Base. After all, Snoke communicated with Kylo and Hux exclusively via hologram - it was pretty obvious that the First Order had substantially more to them than that, unless you think the Supreme Leader was sitting out in the middle of nowhere.

Perhaps it would have been more strategically sound to hold back for a bit, but if the sole thing standing between you and galactic domination is a plucky band of rebels who just won a major victory, I think it makes sense to want to wipe them out before they can rally more people to their side, especially if you're viewing this from the perspective of a bunch of evil megalomaniacs. Why can't this just be a strategic blunder on the characters' part, rather than bad writing?

edited 12th Jan '18 11:34:10 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#4677: Jan 12th 2018 at 11:33:25 AM

[up][up]It's absolutely how you win wars.

edited 12th Jan '18 11:33:43 AM by CrimsonZephyr

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#4678: Jan 12th 2018 at 11:33:46 AM

I don't think its how you win Star Wars

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#4679: Jan 12th 2018 at 11:33:56 AM

(Bottompaged.)

And where was that "blood and iron" on Crait? Hiding in the Outer Rim, because they thought the First Order was unstoppable and that all hope was lost.

If only a legendary hero had returned to perform an impossible feat of defiance and rekindle the spark of hope in the galaxy...

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warrior93 warrior93 from North Carolina Since: Feb, 2011
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#4680: Jan 12th 2018 at 11:34:01 AM

In the grand scheme of things why the FUCK didn't the resistance long evacuated their home base for another star system by the end of Force Awakens?

Also, I don't know how you can overestimate a weapon that can destroy our whole solar system with one shot?

edited 12th Jan '18 11:35:58 AM by warrior93

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#4681: Jan 12th 2018 at 11:34:12 AM

Oh hey look, the same militarist stuff that the mods have repeatedly said to quit doing.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#4682: Jan 12th 2018 at 11:34:43 AM

[up][up][up][up] Its how Sidious won the Clone Wars & defeated the Jedi.

Dude did not hold back.

edited 12th Jan '18 11:35:08 AM by slimcoder

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#4683: Jan 12th 2018 at 11:35:30 AM

And how was Sidious beaten?

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#4684: Jan 12th 2018 at 11:35:31 AM

I'm locking this topic for a bit. I don't know why people can't discuss this film civilly. I certainly tried a little while back, but left because it was pointless arguing with people who just want to shit on the film. Well, here we are and I see my point was completely validated. So, take some time to cool down.

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#4685: Jan 12th 2018 at 11:35:32 AM

They were in the process.

Evacuation takes time if you're trying to save as much material as you can. That it was ultimately futile was more about not knowing about hyperspace tracking. If they knew about that they'd have left their breakfast on the table and be gone as soon as they could.

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