Not Tropeworthy: Office

People Sit On Chairs in its purest form, a Living Relic of the olden and more confusing days of Tv Tropes, only has links in 22 other articles, the examples section is a single paragraph with barely three lines, and it hasn't been edited in a year. How this managed to stay up for 10 years is beyond me.

My suggestion: Cut it and make a Useful Notes page about the white collar office workspace and how it's portrayed in media, or at least make a new trope page that details the setting more and has actual examples.

edited 2nd Oct '17 10:11:24 AM by Augusto

Opening after looking at the page. Yeah, I could see what issues it has. The examples aren't even formatted correctly!

I could see why it could be People Sit on (office) Chairs. The Useful Note idea would be the only way to salvage this. Otherwise, I second cutting.

Yeah, it's People Work In Offices. It describes some "mandatory" characters. Well, two. And one's definitely not required, and the other is pretty much omnipresent. It's not something like Office Romance, which has an actual point (specifically, a type of plot).

I don't think any real value would be lost by cutting it.

Just cut it.

Maybe we can have something like Standard Work Com Office, but as-is this doesn't really have value.

Cutting this.

If someone wants to put an office setting through the TLP draft machine, I think there's potential, but this page as-is is not of much value.

Run it through the document shredder.

Cut it.

Well, since it's becoming increasingly clear that we'll cut the damn thing, I think that it would be a good Idea to start thinking about the whole "make a new, better page that better explains the seting or a Useful Notes page explaining the white collar office workspace and its use on media" ordeal. Personally I'd go for the Useful Notes, but what do you guys think? Useful Notes or a new trope page? I think it's better that we all decide to do one of the two options so we can all make it into a coordinated effort of sorts.

edited 2nd Oct '17 9:23:08 PM by Augusto

This looks like a legit setting trope to me, even if the page is poorly done.

Yeah, we can always propose it to TLP.

This will need a rename at least, I think. Office sounds a bit dull to me.

I do not think this is worth a page at all right now.

Edit: This has been here since 2007, so it looks like it's a prototype trope page.

Should I unindex the page and then cutlist it?

edited 6th Oct '17 11:02:48 PM by jameygamer

Let's just cut it and see if we can salvage its idea though either a Useful Note or a suggestion on TLP

Um, this is clearly not People Sit On Chairs. It's a widely used, extremely common Setting trope, but widely used and extremely common are not what PSOC means.

It definitely needs help, and it's possible that the best approach is to scrap it and start over, but it is definitely an actual trope. Nearly broad enough to be a genre. Setting your work in an office implies all sorts of things: there's a local hierarchy, probably a boss around somewhere, etc.

Standard Office Setting might be a better name. (By analogy with Standard Fantasy Setting and the like.)

Changing the name to something along the lines of Standard Office Setting is certainly a step in the right direction but this page looks like quite the fixer-upper.

The Standard Office Setting idea seems quite solid to me. But if we'll do that, we'll first have to find someone who's willing to do the page from scratch.

So? Who wants to do the page from scratch?

edited 14th Oct '17 5:31:21 AM by Augusto

I think it'll help with whoever is making a new draft to describe what exactly is wrong with the current Office before sending them on their journey through the TLP straits.

My last comment basically just said "something's there but it doesn't work," so here's me trying to explain it better.

Office, for example, doesn't really describe the white collar workplace as seen in fiction. There's a heavy focus on characters that may or may not be in such a setting, though there are some hints to such a setting — like the cubicles, the fact you probably won't see other people working, and the connection between the audience and the setting.

Such a trope could work, but this particular write-up does not.

Cut. It's chairs.

I like the standard office setting idea. Definitely sounds like a more artistic name.

Should I call for a crowner?

The page as is is useless, I think we can only use the ZCE list of shows and try to flash them into examples.

I like the idea of having a trope Standard Office Setting.

I volunteer myself to take this though TLP.

Plus 1 for recreating as Standard Office Setting

edited 27th Nov '17 10:02:37 AM by TrueShadow1

Minus one.

Plus-or-minus one. I don't think we should bother voting in TRS for whether somebody should make a draft. I think that ought to be a separate discussion, in TLP. (I'm still voting to cut Office, btw.)

Cut as-is, but a trope about a specific type of office-based setting would be fine.

Edit: I forgot to mention that I agree with the Standard Offfice Setting idea. The name alone implies something that's common without being People Sit on Chairs.

edited 29th Nov '17 4:46:09 AM by GastonRabbit

I say let's take Standard Office Setting to Trope Launch Pad.

I think we can safely cut this.

If someone wants to make a TLP for Standard Office Setting (and it seems like someone does), that's great, but there's nothing really here to even transplant into it so there's nothing to salvage.