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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't there before Since: Jul, 2009
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#2001: May 26th 2018 at 4:31:52 PM

Sterility became the norm in rich areas, it didn't trickle down to the lower classes fast enough thanks to the growing inequality, I mean, immortality means that no people die at a certain economic strata thus they kept accumulating wealth. That meant the population kept increasing for a couple years before the majority of the population became sterile. That is, when only the rich were left.

edited 26th May '18 4:33:17 PM by vandro

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#2002: May 26th 2018 at 4:35:52 PM

but if there was greater inequality then shouldn't poorer people's life expectancy decline as a result of being unable to access the resources that rich people were hoarding

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't there before Since: Jul, 2009
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#2003: May 26th 2018 at 4:37:31 PM

That it does, but that doesn't mean they stop having children.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#2004: May 26th 2018 at 4:39:29 PM

Shouldn't the kids die too?

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ParaChomp Since: Oct, 2016
#2005: May 26th 2018 at 4:45:32 PM

[up] (many up arrows)

Speaking of Zac from ANN, he just released a new episode of his podcast! https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anncast/2018-05-25/.132045

I also suggest reading Kikimani's posts in the forum. It's weird, it looks like they only created an account to comment on Franxx.

From what I've heard, episode 19 is better but the problems people have still linger and many people are past their breaking point.

edited 26th May '18 5:24:39 PM by ParaChomp

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't there before Since: Jul, 2009
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#2006: May 26th 2018 at 4:47:25 PM

...Okay, I don't follow. Poor people having their chidren die at a greater rate than the rich's children doesn't mean they depopulate, it means they have more children on average to compensate.

Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#2007: May 26th 2018 at 4:48:52 PM

I think my problem with this is the timescale is so short. It starts with 2025 and proclaims that 70% of humanity has become immortal/lost their reproductive functions by 2036 and the rest of humanity will follow in two years. That's not even a generation, let alone enough time to track the long-term consequences but who gives a fuck because whoops klaxosaurs

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2008: May 26th 2018 at 4:50:20 PM

The technology is too unrealistically advance as well.

[up]x2 Also that. The reason we have so few kids these days is that they are far more likely to survive thanks to modern medicine and the like.

edited 26th May '18 5:04:04 PM by OmegaRadiance

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Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2009: May 26th 2018 at 4:56:40 PM

Really that was my biggest surprise with this episode; that Dr. Franxx is not only mortal, but was alive before the world ended.

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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#2010: May 26th 2018 at 5:09:21 PM

Klaxxosaurus should really have being the only problem, right? I mean, they're the ones that makes sense

I just don't see the point of it, really. Is it just so he can refute all the "humans becoming gods" analogies with a cool phrase? Because there are way too many Straw Atheists and horrible, deranged atheists in media already, there's no need for another one.

Honest question. Beyond openly religious media, how many actual evil Atheists exist in fiction.

edited 26th May '18 5:11:05 PM by KazuyaProta

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ParaChomp Since: Oct, 2016
#2011: May 26th 2018 at 5:41:27 PM

All the ones I know of are quickly converted.

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#2012: May 26th 2018 at 6:05:32 PM

Do you guys think Hiro is a clone of Dr.Franxx?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#2013: May 26th 2018 at 6:07:49 PM

That would make sense.

I can see it happening.

edited 26th May '18 6:08:09 PM by slimcoder

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#2014: May 26th 2018 at 6:10:56 PM

Though if Zero Two also has some Franx in her, that would make her and Hiro siblings… >.>

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Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#2016: May 26th 2018 at 6:37:01 PM

nvm

edited 26th May '18 6:42:02 PM by Nouct

32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#2017: May 26th 2018 at 7:26:19 PM

I thought that was a great episode. Or at least I enjoyed it.

I get the impression this is the last mission Papa needs them for, so he's not exactly making a promise in good faith. Not that I'd expect him to keep it anyway.

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Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#2018: May 26th 2018 at 8:12:13 PM

Pretty sure that Werner’s atheism isn’t about the show’s themes, but about its structure. They’ve chosen to do Japanese social commentary as a mecha reinterpretation of Norse mythology, and he’s Odin, the god who denies his godhood. It’s a signpost to let us know what story they’re retelling, like his ecstatic mutilation in search of knowledge.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#2019: May 26th 2018 at 8:16:31 PM

The show is going on another hiatus, so no new episode until the week after next week.

So can someone summarize the problems people have with the show around these here parts? I'd like to know.

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#2020: May 26th 2018 at 8:22:32 PM

Honest question. Beyond openly religious media, how many actual evil Atheists exist in fiction.

It's a subtle thing outside of religious works. Plenty of works, especially going further into the past, have their villain be subtly implied or shown to not believe in god. I can't personally remember any right now, because it's late over here, but these tropes should have some of the examples you're looking for. Hollywood Atheist also has some examples, if I remember correctly.

Really that was my biggest surprise with this episode; that Dr. Franxx is not only mortal, but was alive before the world ended.

This makes me wonder just how long it's been since the world ended. Dr. Franxx is still alive, and he was never made immortal, as far as we're aware. So it probably hasn't been a full century since humanity died out in the surface. Honestly, I think the time scale for this apocalypse is a bit too quick, especially for the events shown during the flashback.

[up][up]Hm. That's a fair point.

[up]Personally, I think it's a very generic and uninspired show with poor writing that tends to lend itself far too easily into Unintentionally Unsympathetic or outright Unfortunate Implications, and sometimes just feels like propaganda to make the japanese people have more children. It looked interesting, had a lot of promise, but ultimately failed to deliver on all fronts and then tripped itself into some bad spots. It's not aggressively bad, it's just mediocre. For all he's said, I think the ANN review guy (the one with the tweets someone posted above) had it right when he said it's got the same message as Evangelion, but managed to find the simplest and most idiotic and off-putting ways of delivering it.

edited 26th May '18 8:29:19 PM by TheLovecraftian

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2021: May 26th 2018 at 8:37:58 PM

To go with the Dr. being Odin the man er god was married to a giantess, the mother of Thor. Which would fit his mad desre for the princess.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#2022: May 26th 2018 at 8:41:42 PM

[up][up][up] If you want my sincere opinion. [up][up] Already said most of it, but to put it in my own words.

While you can understand what the show is trying to do and it's themes, the way it delivers on them is so mediocre and generic, as if the staff only understand them on a surface level and never bothered to delve into them any deeper. This would be one thing if the series wasn't meant to be taken completely seriously, but the framing makes it clear that isn't the case.

The pacing of the plot isn't that good either, and it's rather glaring that it took 19 episodes to get any sort of context towards the setting and it's backstory, and there are still questions left unanswered. The characters never really grow beyond the basic archetypes that we were introduced to them with, and in worse cases, feel completely unneeded (Hello Futoshi and Ikuno :V) or regress for the sake of the plot. There's no sense of progression and as a result, makes it really hard to get invested in what happens to them. 02 has a good design I guess...

The show isn't bad by any means, but I honestly wouldn't give it a grade beyond "C-" and kind of feel like I wasted my time watching it. Like it was said, there are shows that have done what this one has done better and with much less muddled themes. And have actual mecha battles

edited 26th May '18 8:44:25 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#2023: May 26th 2018 at 8:57:17 PM

How much do you wanna bet the ending is gonna just be Babies Ever After, bonus points if even Ikuno is pregnant

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#2024: May 26th 2018 at 9:00:30 PM

[up][up]Solid B so far, but I feel like the ending will color the opinions of most viewers either way.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#2025: May 26th 2018 at 9:03:28 PM

Either this show has a straight up Happily Ever After or a Bittersweet Ending with someone dying. But it's gonna fall a bit flat for me since I can't care much about the cast.

But honestly, I can't see many ways this series can end. Like I said, it's been rather straightforward in what it's doing, so I have no reason to assume its going to deviate.

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