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Wait I got the decade ago wrong.
I was thinking 2000’s not 2010’s.
I feel like I'm one of the few people here that actually still like the show.
Also, according to rumors, and I quote, "Trigger admitted in their Anime Expo 2018 panel that they were not getting along well with Cloverworks/Koenji, especially with the planned approach to the series and the production project, and Trigger had to face having storyboards rejected by the producer and director.
Franxx was supposed to be 26 episodes long (which was not accurate since it has been listed for 24 episodes long ago), and the story had to be restructured after losing two weeks in delays (recap after ep15 and a week hiatus after ep20). Trigger eventually bowed out of the project, leaving most of the project to Cloverworks after Episode 15."
no wonder it had a quality slip after the 15th episode
That certainly explains a lot.
I will admit that I also liked this show, especially the first 15 episodes and even the manga. It's a shame that it couldn't have been allowed to fly higher than what we got.
No wonder it had dumb teen pregnancy. P5 and Dinos in the Franxx no one is safe from Black Clover the Clover.
Honestly, I don't think so. Mostly because it would then be compared to Godannar and while it may just be somewhat rose-coloured glasses on my part I don't think it holds up all that well. Godannar is rather heteronormative in of itself (especially given its level of fanservice), I think it does do a better job in someways. For one it's a lot more open about Shadow and Luna's relationship, even if it does lean way too hard on the whole butch/femme dynamic and they are allowed to have an explicitly happy ending while the Russian team (names are escaping me at the moment) allow at least a token acknowledgement of variations of relationships within a heterosexual context.
…While I also liked the show, even at the end (mostly), that would certainly explain its more "messy" aspects in the late parts. Though we still don't know exactly how much Trigger was involved in the writing to begin with…
Gigguk strikes comedy gold
I will say, one of my favorite moments was how in episode 15 Hiro straight out tells Zero Two that they need to actually speak and work out their relationship, while that was a thread left hanging, it did seem far more mature to how anime tends to handle relationships.
@ Omega Radiance
Yeah, that was certainly an unneeded part added just to create drama, not to mention that the book Kokoro picked up should have come with a warning about having babies when your body is still not ready.
Edited by raziel365 on Jul 11th 2018 at 1:25:33 AM
So everything after 15 wasn't planned at all. Well that explains a lot.
Silly boy, this is anime. There is no such thing as not being ready for such a thing, unless the author is trying to make a point.
Gigguk is as always a wise sage isolated jn his Animu Paradise filled with trash also known as anime.
…What's that anime he coughed at?
Guilty Crown. Remembered for the memes, Sawano's score, and not a whole lot else.
Though when it comes to wild rides where shit just gets stupid for no reason, there's simply no competing with Valvrave.
Edited by Eschaton on Jul 11th 2018 at 4:55:32 AM
Valvrape the Penetrator was certainly a thing yes.
Nothing was more amusing than learning a couple years later L-Elfs descendant looks like his and Harutos lovechild because Haruto passed on his genes to L-Elf and it became a part of L-Elf DNA as he sucked alien vampire magic blood from the white haired human boy.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 11th 2018 at 9:53:37 AM
Man I should have watched Valvrave when it was airing
I missed out
All I can boast is Cross Ange
Real talk I wouldn’t put Darling in that category, it tries too hard to be decent and sometimes works
What will be the next big meme watch
Franxx wishes it were Valvrave or Cross Ange.
Okay point it would have been a lot more fun to watch
Hell, I honestly find Ange to be much more interesting as a character then Zero Two, as well. She's basically the Bastard Girlfriend archetype that Zero Two represents, except it completely backfires against her.
I heard her boyfriend is a real piece of shit though.
In not that he is a terrible person but just a terribly unlikable boring character.
Tusk is literally a vanilla Harem Protagonist, but in a supporting role rather than as the main character. I personally find this hilarious.
I think people got pretty annoyed too because the other 3 of Ange's romantic optionsnote Hilda, Momoka and Sala (who was her lover in a past life) were much more interesting.
Huh, according to the character page the series ended with Ange/Tusk/Hilda.
Maybe I missed something when I watched it?
Edited by 32ndfreeze on Jul 12th 2018 at 2:18:04 AM
It’s only funny if it’s a piss-take though like he repeatedly gets mocked or get the shit beaten outta him regularly.
The fact they actually go through with harem gags like constantly falling in Ange’s crotch seriously, even getting the girl in the end is alone why I refuse to watch the show.
That was how Tusk was used at first, but evetually he started getting played straight. It;s one of the reason Cross Ange's second half isn't as great as the first half.
Honestly, I still wish Sunrise would make another season of Valvrave, as I feel that it still has tons of potential for storylines in its universe. Plus, getting to see Saki again (who I feel is one of Sunrise's best heroines in recent years) would be neat.
Anyways, back on topic. For all its faults, I would still recommend Franxx to people, as it is still enjoyable overall imo. And Zero Two is still for my money one of the better heroines to come out of a mecha/romance anime in quite some time.
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