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Absolutely delete the Sonic page.
Burn that page.
The design is ugly, but hardly nightmarish. Cut.
The page is admittedly kinda funny, but yeah, it's definitely inappropriate for the wiki. Fortunately, someone did save it via the Wayback Machine.
Edited by OldLadyNightMan on May 9th 2019 at 3:43:47 PM
Alright, I've decided to do a clean up of all the Super Smash Bros. NF pages. Because I like this series and I like Nightmare Fuel. Starting with the General/N64 page
Do people really break into tears when they lose in Stamina mode or when their Pikmin/Luma die? I'd say they don't even qualify for Tear Jerker.
For the examples where you say you did find them scary, keep them. If it scared you, it almost certainly scared lots of other people as well.
According to YouTube comments, some people did find the Game Clear tune scary.
Edited by Zuxtron on May 9th 2019 at 8:49:11 AM
Finished sorting examples in Sandbox.Avengers Endgame Nightmare Fuel into "Keep", "Maybe/Mixed", and "Cut" piles. Any comments?
Will review the sandbox in a moment, but for a breath of fresh air, here's a real easy page to cut: NightmareFuel.Cars 2
Also, a NF page was already made for It: Chapter Two shortly after the trailer released yesterday.
First off, just reporting that NightmareFuel.The Lego Movie was cut.
Second, there's material on NightmareFuel.Cars that could be moved to NightmareFuel.Cars 2.
Went ahead and put that on the Cut List. It doesn't even need discussion.
The only thing on NightmareFuel.Cars that seems like it could possibly be worth keeping is Torque's death. One example is a Zero-Context Example, and the other is a general one that just says the movie has a dark tone, without mentioning anything specific that's dark. That's probably not worth moving to NightmareFuel.Cars 2.
if there's only one example, it can be bounced back to the YMMV page and the NF page cut, right?
if that's not correct, i have some cleaning to do, because there are a number of YMMV pages that have very short NF sections on them.
Yeah, if there's not enough good examples for a page usually it just goes on YMMV page
Regarding Avengers Endgame: First and foremost:
Everything on that page needs to be trimmed. We don't need run on paragraphs.
I think the example describing the beginning is absolutely a keeper. But it could be trimmed down.
Personally, I didn't find the effects of the Infinity Gauntlet on the user to be all that extreme, just looks like they got non bloody third degree burns, but if that comes off as gruesome I suppose it's worth keeping. The decapitation, could also probably stay.
The cities being lifeless is something that can be a nightmare. But the example doesn't need so much hyperbole or italics.
Drowning scene is absolutely NF.
Finding the beasts with the arrows light? Maaaybe.
Dr. Strange being Creepy Good? No.
Thanos trying to destroy the whole universe? Yeah, without the hyperbole.
I'd say Thanos going berserk in, you know, battle is also standard movie stuff.
What happens to Scott Lang after coming out of the quantum realm personally made me feel more sad and worried for them than scared of the situation. I think that's a better fit for Tear Jerker. And him finding his daughter again is a Heartwarming Moment. Everything else in the delete folder is either Fridge or belongs in Awesome Moments.
unless anyone objects, im gonna do that Cars cleanup we discussed a couple days ago and cutlist the page
Found this example on NightmareFuel.Weird Al Yankovic:
This doesn't apply because "seeing the events happen IRL" is not something that would make a young child afraid to sleep in their bed.
Yeah, that's misuse. The song is absolutely a comedy, with a Hilariously Abusive Childhood element.
as it turns out, the torque example was already under nightmare fuel on YMMV.Cars 2, making the page even more worthless than we thought. it's been cutlisted.
Continuing the Super Smash Bros Nightmare Fuel Cleanup Project I took upon myself:
I found an interesting note on the General/N64 page in percentages:
"In order for Nightmare Fuel tabs to survive, a new writing style is going to be used, nicknamed Example Lobotomy. Basic rules: just list facts as they are, don't just say "character X" or "the X scene" (such Zero Context Examples will be zapped), all spoilers are to be unmarked as Spoilers Off apples to all Moments pages, italics to be applied to works' names only and not to give emphasis on what tropers say. "X scared me" is already implied by the mere addition of that example by the troper."
This could be put on more NF pages if you ask me, especially the bit about italics, because next to Fridge Horror that's the biggest issue I see on these pages.
Anyway, I was gonna do Melee next, but I decided the Wii U/3DS page was in more desperate need. It's a wall of text!
Master Core's entry is mostly just a description of all its forms and attacks without even attempting to make it sound scary. Will anyone have bad dreams about Master Beast knocking the stage around and going into the background during an attack and knocking you away, or Master Sabres juggling your character? It absolutely needs to be completely rewritten from the ground up.
The Orne... I wouldn't be so quick to cut it, even though it doesn't really look scary to me I can imagine a more sensitive person finding it frightening. Then again, I'm a bit out of touch with what people find scary due to reading way too many bad examples of Nightmare Fuel.
Other than that, I pretty much agree with everything you said.
Yeah I am gonna have to figure out how to rewrite it in a more mature way. I do think it can fit in NF, but overly describing it isn't the way.
After thinking about it, yeah the Orne would probably scare children or jumpy people, this is a game for all audiences after all.
Do you find the image of Lucina staring down Luigi accidentally frightening?
Per suggestion, The LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part suffers from several of the same problems as the cut page for the first movie, being that many of the examples are played for laughs.
She doesn't even seem to be looking at Luigi, just straight forward while Luigi is down on the ground. That absolutely isn't scary.
A lot of these examples also contradict themselves by mentioning a Nightmare Retardant aspect. Nightmare Retardant doesn't automatically invalidate Nightmare Fuel since both of these things are subjective, but NF should be about why something is scary, not why it isn't. The example with Rex is explicitly Fridge Horror which is not allowed on Nightmare Fuel pages, so I deleted it (but kept one part which seemed to not be Fridge).
Edited by Zuxtron on May 13th 2019 at 10:57:19 AM
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