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rjd1922 Ultimate Memelord from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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Dec 28th 2018 at 8:00:43 PM

NightmareFuel.Planes and NightmareFuel.Eversion contain a lot of Fridge Horror and Epileptic Trees. While I've never seen Planes, I think Skipper's war flashback and possibly Dusty almost drowning are the only legit examples. On the other hand, I've played Eversion and it has plenty of Nightmare Fuel, but there's still too much speculation.

I stole your heart, so now I'm satisfied.
Dec 29th 2018 at 10:12:10 AM

NightmareFuel.How I Met Your Mother is pretty bad. I'd say all of it is non-examples, with everything listed being Played For Laighs, with Fridge Horror (potholed in, no less), speculation, creepy faces, ZCEs, spoiler tags.

Nuke it.

Silverblade2 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Dec 29th 2018 at 12:10:53 PM

I've seen HIMYM and I totally agree, there's nothing remotely creepy in it.

Dec 29th 2018 at 2:40:55 PM

I haven't watched the show, but is the Cockamouse really "one of the scariest monsters in television history" and its Scare Chord "one of the most terrifying pieces of music ever composed"? That sounds like some of the worst hyperbole ever written.

I'd be fine with cutting the whole page.

Edited by Zuxtron on Dec 29th 2018 at 5:42:46 AM

WarJay77 from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Dec 29th 2018 at 2:46:21 PM

A quick image search later, and I get this for the cockamouse. Scariest monster ever? Really? It looks like a freaking Pokemon more than a horrifying monster.

Cut the page.

NervousShark Silent protagonist brunch from the deep sea Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Silent protagonist brunch
Dec 29th 2018 at 9:28:20 PM

[up]I think it's kinda cute. Just me?

Anyway, I know that NF pages are Spoilers Off, but would that include NightmareFuel.Vocaloid? The page needs a lot of help, and I was going to start with stripping all the spoiler tags, but then I started second-guessing myself. The point of NF pages being Spoilers Off is because they're for post-viewing discussion, but there are so dang many Vocaloid songs out there by so many different producers that someone could go to the NF page to look for a song they just listened to, only to get the twist ending of another song that they'd never heard of spoiled. I think most of the spoiler tags can safely go, I'm just wondering about ones that spoil secret messages or endings to songs. (Sorry if this question doesn't make any sense, I'm not the most eloquent person.)

Edited by NervousShark on Dec 29th 2018 at 12:43:01 PM

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Dec 30th 2018 at 6:23:54 AM

Okay, so that RWBY example needs to be shaved down:

  • While the previous episode established that Cinder had lost her left arm and replaced it with a Grimm appendage, this episode reveals the full extent of her injuries after Ruby used her silver eyes. Once Raven shatters Cinder's mask while blasting her into the abyss, her left eye is seen to be completely closed, with scarring running from the right side of her nose, across the left side of her face and eye, and all the way round to include a mangled ear. While it appears that Cinder was able to have a Grimm arm attached to the scarred remnants of her left arm, it appears that Salem has no power to remove the terrible scarring that has been done to Cinder, and Cinder's Maiden powers can't do anything about it either. This damage was done by a fifteen year old girl by accident.

That leaves us with a scene summary rather than a Nightmare Fuel. I think what I'll do is remove it from the page and ask if anyone wants to rewrite this to explain why the sight is Nightmare Fuel for the audience because that's what's missing. The reason I can't rewrite it is because it's just not Nightmare Fuel for me — I've had a go. I just can't do this one.

Regarding the last few posts:

NightmareFuel.Planes is almost entirely Fridge with some ZCEs thrown in. Remove the page.

NightmareFuel.Eversion suffers from heavy ZCE, Fridge use, and hyperbole. Even the image isn't Nightmare Fuel — it's non-descript and suffers from 'just an image and a caption' issues (and the paragraph that discusses the image is forced to admit that, in context, it's Nightmare Retardant). Remove the entire page.

NightmareFuel.HowIMetYourMother suffers from ZCE, Fridge and hyperbole. There's an Adult Fear example on the page about Lily dumping Marshall, but it's so badly worded, I can't tell if it's a legitimate example or not. There's also an example about mangled thumbs, but I can't see the image because my anti-virus is telling me the link is a malware risk. Everything else can definitely go, but if someone could clarify those two examples for me, that would be great.

NightmareFuel.Vocaloid: Yes, that page should be Spoilers Off. If people are visiting that page having listened to only a couple of songs then they run the risk of being spoiled for songs the haven't listened to. That is the risk all the Moments pages run for every work — that there might always be something you haven't yet seen from the work on that page spoiling a twist.

Looking at the page. I don't know anything about this work, but the page looks like, among other problems, it's troping generically and even groups, including the broad works of creators. The page image is a case of Fan Myopia. Speaking as someone who doesn't know the work, the picture makes absolutely no sense. I'm not even sure what I'm looking at — the mark on the neck might be sign of a severed neck or it might be a neck garter. What the extra arm and foot are, I have no idea. Yet the entry for the image clearly seems to think it's a self-explanatory example of the trope. It's not.

So, you're right, the page does look like it has a lot of problems, and you might find that some of these examples that are spoiler tagged end up needing to be removed anyway. I can see there's a lot of ZCE and Fridge going on as well, some of which is spoiler-tagged and therefore should probably be removed entirely.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Dec 30th 2018 at 2:58:57 PM

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rjd1922 Ultimate Memelord from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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Dec 30th 2018 at 10:17:04 AM

Like I said, Eversion is a very scary game, so the NF page shouldn't be cut despite the major issues with it.

I stole your heart, so now I'm satisfied.
WarJay77 from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Dec 30th 2018 at 11:01:11 AM

  • Planes: Remove.

  • Eversion: Keep and cleanup the bad examples.

  • Vocaloid: I don't know anything about Vocaloid, so I'm not the best person to weigh in on this, but going through the page I do see a lot of examples that are nothing more than links to a video with "this is scary" tacked onto it.

NightmareFuel.Game Grumps has similar issues to what NightmareFuel.Jon Tron had; some legitimate examples mixed in with shoe-horns, bad context and the fact that a majority of things on Game Grumps is Played for Laughs, although they do get serious at times.

Edited by WarJay77 on Dec 30th 2018 at 2:12:10 PM

NervousShark Silent protagonist brunch from the deep sea Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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Dec 30th 2018 at 11:06:04 AM

[up][up][up][up]Thanks! I'll strip the spoiler tags from the page. The page image was actually recently chosen on the Image Pickin' forums. It's better than the old one, at least.

[up]Yeah, there are a lot of ZCEs. There are a lot of questionable examples as well, and serious Example Indentation problems.

Edited by NervousShark on Dec 30th 2018 at 2:35:39 PM

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WarJay77 from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Dec 30th 2018 at 11:07:40 AM

I should point out the big difference with the two pages/works: JonTron is a review show with scripted skits that could actually be scary; Game Grumps is an improve comedy show done while the boys play video games, so 99% of anything that would actually be scary happens while they're playing a scary game, not doing anything scary themselves.

Dec 31st 2018 at 9:14:46 AM

JonTron's original material can qualify, but if it's all or mostly misuse like not scary stuff, zero context, speculation and fridge entries, the whole page should just be cut altogether.

WarJay77 from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Dec 31st 2018 at 10:19:31 AM

Jon's page did have heavy misuse, but there were examples that could be considered legit.

I'm not sure I can say the same for Game Grumps, but would like a second opinion.

Dec 31st 2018 at 1:40:43 PM

To Boldly Flee has a lot of examples that are ZCE, reaching for it, or not-scary.

EDIT: A new Steven Universe episode came out so NightmareFuel.Steven Universe might need a look at.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Dec 31st 2018 at 6:28:29 AM

Jan 1st 2019 at 9:56:12 PM

I thought it would be interesting to bring up the Nightmare fuel page for Deep Space 9:

I think a lot of those are valid, Deep Space 9 was pretty dark. Though this needs some changing, cut out the joke and put as a minor point about the Mirror Universe in general:

  • Let's not forget Mirror!Odo's messy explosion when Bashir shoots him with a phaser in "Crossover."
    • Lovingly called "Explodo!" by the fans.

Its also mentioned twice:

  • The Death of Mirror Universe Odo in "Crossover."

Also, this is an intense moment, its not nightmare fuel:

  • In its way, the look on Kira's face as she walks down the corridor to Odo's quarters at the end of "Behind The Lines," after Odo failed to deactivate the security monitors leading to Rom's arrest by the Dominion. There is a look of absolute fury and murder in her eyes, and she POUNDS on the door panel to his quarters to demand admittance. Considering that Odo is one of her best friends, the fact that this is directed towards him specifically...

The stuff with the Breen sounds like Fridge Horror to me:

  • The Breen. They only appear in a handful of episodes, but they certainly make an impact. For one, their technology is different, more advanced, than anything the Alliance has, able to destroy the Defiant in five minutes. Second, we know NOTHING about them; their culture, motives, even what they look like under those suits, all are left mysterious. And finally, we don't even know what they're saying. The Universal Translator seems to translate their speech, but it's all R2-D2 Speak to the audience. All we take from them is what we see: they're clever, unpredictable killing machines with absolutely zero mercy. The Breen epitomize Nothing Is Scarier.
The first Breen contribution to the Dominion's war effort is to launch a successful raid on Earth—the heart of the Federation, and a planet so heavily fortified that the Klingons never even considered attacking it. Except the Klingons did nearly launch an attack on Earth, as shown in the first season finale of Star Trek: Discovery. That said, with the Empire highly fragmented at the time, the records might have been lost to history over the intervening century-or-so.

Edited by Overlord on Jan 1st 2019 at 9:58:07 AM

Jan 2nd 2019 at 9:18:38 AM

[up][up] Which “To Boldly Flee”, examples in specific are you referring to?

Jan 2nd 2019 at 12:00:51 PM

Overlord, my assessment of the page is below. I didn't include the full examples, sorry, because it was getting too long, so I hope it makes sense.

In summary, the page (as written) needs to be nuked entirely. Almost everything on the page is Fridge, scene summary, episode summary, character reaction, ZCE or justifying edits, natter and conversation. Even the references that should be this trope are so badly written that, as they stand, they cannot remain on the page.

So, I'd say nuke all the examples. Then we can rewrite the entries from scratch. I'm a Star Trek fan, I'll be happy to help rewrite the ones we decide to keep. Anyway, my suggestions are below — I think there are a maximum of 13 possible keepers, but only two of them can be kept as written (barely) — the other 11 would need to be completely rewritten to keep, and I'd rewrite all 13:

     DS9 page 
  • The Battle of Wolf 359 has example indentation issues. The primary paragraph asks about the other civilians in italics, making it a Fridge Horror example. Remove
    • Speculating about how long it takes to disable the one ship to estimate how long it takes to disable the entire fleet is again Fridge Horror. Remove
    • Applying meta-knowledge of the specs on the Oberth-class ship to speculate about the desperation of the Federation is Fridge. Remove
    • Note: There might be a legitimate example in the way the battle is depicted. But it needs to be rewritten from scratch to be able to stay on the page.
  • 'If Wishes Were Horses' — this a scene summary. Remove
    • Note: There might be a legitimate example here. But it needs to be rewritten from scratch to be able to stay on the page.
  • '...Nor the Battle to the Strong' is a scene summary. Remove
  • Cardassian atrocities: The primary entry runs afoul of Examples Are Not Quotes. Remove
    • Another Examples Are Not Quotes violation. Remove
    • This is written as Fridge (and needs the spoiler tags to be removed). Remove
    • Note: There might be a legitimate example here — the second bullet point does try, but ends up as Fridge. This episode needs to be rewritten from scratch to be able to stay on the page.
  • "The Jem'Hadar": This is a scene summary. Remove
    • Justifying edit. Remove
  • Changeling bodies breaking down: "Broken Link" summary description. Remove
    • Section 31's virus: wordy zero context example. Remove
      • Comparison to smallpox. This Fridge. Remove
    • Garak's torture of Odo: Zero Context Example. Remove
    • Mirror!Odo's explosion: ZCE. Remove
      • Natter. Remove
    • Note: There might be a legitimate example for the way Odo is broken down during the torture by Garak, especially as Garak is being tortured by his own actions — the audience is witnessing the break down of both men. But it needs to be rewritten from scratch to be able to stay on the page.
  • "Facets": Scene summary. Remove
    • Trivia natter. Remove
    • Note: Joran might be a legitimate example. But it needs to be rewritten from scratch to be able to stay on the page.
  • "Hard Time": This is, surprisingly, a wordy ZCE. Rewrite to explain why it's heartbreaking and terrifying.
    • Justifying edit: incorporate into the main entry.
    • Note: This absolutely should be a legitimate example — the episode really is haunting. But it needs to be rewritten from scratch to be able to stay on the page.
  • "The Assignment": This is more or less an example, so I say it could be kept. Keep.
    • The sub-bullet and the quote needs to go. Remove.
  • "Covenant": This is just a generalised 'Pah'Wraiths are creepy' and 'Dukat is creepy' comment on a scene summary. Remove.
  • Mirror Odo's death is ZCE. Remove.
  • The Breen: Fridge Horror. Remove
    • Justifying edit. Remove.
      • Now we're into conversation. Remove.
  • "The Quickening": Episode summary. Remove.
  • Killing Kira's cell-mates: Actually ZCE because it relies on readers to be familiar with the Saw reference. Remove.
    • ZCE on the Body Horror reference and then it admits it's going into Fridge Horror. Remove.
    • Note: There might be a legitimate example here. But it needs to be rewritten from scratch to be able to stay on the page.
  • "Field of Fire": ZCE. Remove
    • Another summary. Remove
    • The bullets are getting into Fridge. Remove
    • Targeting sensor example that admits it's Fridge Horror. Remove.
  • The Changeling Reveal: That's just an episode reveal.Remove.
    • Scene summary of taunting changeling. Remove
      • ZCE sub-bullet. Remove
  • Hanging woman: ZCE. Combine with sub-bullet below
    • This tries to be the trope, so this can be kept. Turn everything into a single example. Keep but rewrite.
  • Dominion 'Houdini' mines: summary of threat written like Fridge. Remove.
    • Admits it's Fridge. Remove
    • Continuines the Fridge. Remove
      • More Fridge. Remove
  • "Far Beyond The Stars": Remove the last Fridge sentence and combine with the sub-bullet to explain why the reality of it is the Nightmare. Keep with rewrite.
  • Dukat's obsession: written as Fridge Remove
  • "Tribunal": Scene summary and then comparison with other dark episodes. This is an episode analysis, not the trope. Remove.
    • The sub-bullet starts to offer options for how it could be seen as Nightmare Fuel.
    • The impact on the Duet episode is Fridge. Remove
    • Note: There might be a legitimate example here, using the first sub-bullet as the basis from which to form an example. But it needs to be rewritten from scratch to be able to stay on the page.
  • Q and Vash: Fridge. Remove
  • "Second Skin" Hyperbolic misrepresentation of the episode (she has an Heroic BSoD, it's true, but it's not a DEH).
    • Note: There might be a legitimate example here. But it needs to be rewritten from scratch to be able to stay on the page.
  • Garak killing Entek is a scene summary. Remove
    • Description of how Garak kills in general. Remove
    • Garak horrifies other characters is character reaction not audience reaction. Remove
    • Empok Nor is ZCE. Remove or Rewrite.
    • Garak's handling of Tolar is written like Fridge. There may or may not be an example here or it may be Fridge. I'm not sure. Second opinion needed.
    • Garak has an in-universe shocking moment when his contacts all die. Character reaction, not audience reaction. Remove
  • Kira in "Behind The Lines": Scene description. Remove
  • "Business as Usual": Episode summary of character reaction. Remove
  • Keiko and the coffee-drinking O'Brien clue admits it's funny. Remove
    • Justifying edit trying to turn it into a creepy example by using Fridge. Remove
  • "Crossover" is an episode summary. Remove
  • "Visionary": Episode summary and character reaction. Remove
  • "Distant Voices": Episode summary. Remove
  • Sisko trapped with an hallucinating Dukat: Fridge Horror. Remove

Edited by Wyldchyld on Jan 2nd 2019 at 8:08:18 PM

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WarJay77 from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Jan 2nd 2019 at 12:07:00 PM

[up] Seems like starting over might be the best option, then...

And makes me think I should give Game Grumps a thorough inspection, as well. I'll take care of that by tonight.

Jan 2nd 2019 at 1:14:48 PM

[up][up] I think even if those entries are not well written, they allude to stuff from the show worth keeping. Garak turning into a Serial Killer in the Empok Nor episode is pretty scary, the revenge-obsessed killer from the "Darkness and the Light" who sent Kira creepy messages after killing her friends also stands out (the killer brutally kills one of them by messing up the transport beam), IMO and the virus from the Quickening is pretty nightmarish, its passed down generation to generation, has no cure, hospitals can kill people who are close to death and do nothing else, etc.

Edited by Overlord on Jan 2nd 2019 at 1:21:54 AM

WarJay77 from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Jan 2nd 2019 at 1:47:19 PM

    Game Grumps 
  • The ROM Hack concept for Banjo-Kazooie that the two come up with, featuring a bloodcurdling scream as death sounds, a Heartbeat Soundtrack, and eerie noises getting louder with each Jiggy collected. Might be scary if the concept was real, but it's just an idea.'
  • Arin's creepy and almost Uncanny Valley robot voice in episode 9 of Banjo Kazooie. 'Using a web link to prove the example and at that it's just a robot voice.'
  • In episode 23 of ''Super Mario 64'', at one point where Mario loses all his health, just before the Bowser icon closes out the level, a flower enemy moves towards Mario and if paused at the right moment, it will make a very creepy face. 'Maybe scary, but not an example of the Grumps themselves being scary.'
  • Egoraptor's story, also in Clanker's Cavern. He was home alone one day, and his family's cordless phone rang. It was down in the basement, so he went to go answer it. He answered, and all he heard was an echoing droning noise, which he has admitted to being afraid of (and still is, as evidenced in another video when he explicity says low, droning noises rising in intensity freak him out). So basically he was home all alone, in a dark basement, hearing a noise that utterly terrifies him through a phone... 'Certainly pretty creepy. Keep?'
  • Nearly anything they talk about in Clanker's Cavern, appropriately enough. 'No context'
  • The giant snowman in Banjo Kazooie that has massive eyes. At least according to Jon. 'Admits it's not actually scary'
  • The ending of the Spice World episode is genuinely unsettling, with Arin's mental breakdown leading to him doing some fucked-up stuff to Jon that we can't see while a snippet of music from the game is repeatedly looped. The episode ends with 8 seconds of silence and blackness. 'Might be keepable.'
  • Similarly, the ending of the 4th Pocky and Rocky episode is pretty creepy. 'No context.'
  • In the Grant Kirkhope episode, Jon, Arin and Grant have the clip of the finale of Banjo-Kazooie rather than play it themselves. When this is over it cuts back to Banjo in a dark, dank pipe, slowing drowning to death. Kinda makes it seem like it was all in Banjo's head while he slowly dies. 'Not sure about this one.'
  • Arin and Danny have a simultaneous heart-attack the moment Mr. Wilson appears on screen while playing Dennis the Menace. The sprite — little more than the giant, pixelated head of his actor, Walter Matthau, on a tiny bathrobe-wearing body — has been described by multiple people as a super uncanny Saddam Hussein wearing a bathrobe. It isn't made any better by the personality Arin and Danny come up with for him, nor his tendency to appear with no warning and leave them no time to react. 'Another potentially creepy moment but one that isn't from the game grumps themselves.'
  • In the Endless Ocean episode, Danny talks about Open Water, a film in which a husband and wife are left behind after a scuba dive when the boat drives off without them. He talks about this while the onscreen character is swimming around in the aptly-named Endless Ocean. The film is frightening enough, but combining a description of it with the visuals on a comedy show makes it a touch unnerving. 'Another non-grumps example'
  • The Teletubbies episode. Aside from the live-action segment, the game is rife with Uncanny Valley and Paranoia Fuel that causes Arin to kill himself again.
    "Duck goes quack. Quack quack quack. Duck goes quack quack quack." 'Maybe, needs a lot more context though, the only potentially scary thing is that Arin "kills himself" at the end.'
  • Arin's NES has had a few terrifyingly sudden graphical glitches that look like corruption spreading from the right side of the screen. 'Unsure about this one, these are just glitches, not moments intended to be scary.'
    • A primary example of the above occurs out of nowhere in just the first level of the NES port game Mappy-Land . Arin and Dan's hollering, although CMOF also reminds you how naturally freaked out they were.
  • Zurgie, the zombie version of the floating burger Burgie, makes a cameo during their playthrough of Super Mario 64. Unlike the normal Burgie, he is fully-animated...and hungry.
  • Jon and Arin's "Grump / Not So Grump" T-shirt advert is going smoothly until they get a call, which confuses them since they had never distributed a number to call. Jon picks up and hears nothing but white noise, which freaks the fuck out of Arin. When it cuts back to Jon, he's been possessed with Glowing Eyes of Doom and the Voice of the Legion. 'Unsure about this one. Definitely a bit creepy, but also played for laughs.'
    Arin: Jon, I know what you're thinking! WE GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE!
  • On Grumpcade, during the first episode of Vice: Project Doom, the second half of the episode is made up of outtakes from the sketch in the beginning. What starts out as a hilarious example of Ross's social anxiety slowly becomes creepy when Ross, Barry, and Jared are literally holed up in their hotel room, while some... excessive... fans lean against their door upon realizing it's them. The creep factor ends up reaching full when the fans push a note under their door, trying to pass themselves off as Magfest employees in order to get the three's phone numbers. The guys are understandably scared shitless. 'Hmm...maybe keep?'
    Jared: This is all our horrors realized.
  • Arin's Sanity Slippage in Sonic 06 where he goes Laughing Mad after defeating Sonic as Silver (this after Silver gave him so much trouble when he played as Sonic). It's a Funny Moment but at the same time, it's creepy, especially when he screams at Jon who fears for his life. 'Admits that it's meant to be funny.'
  • Danny's rage building when playing one of Jirard's levels in Super Mario Maker. Unlike Arin's who screams and rages when he gets angry, Danny remains calm and collected, but his voice turns cold and his tone is very dark and terrifying. 'Is someone getting angry at a game really that scary?'
  • This picture from the 2014 calendar of four Grumps (presumably the males) curled up in balls completely naked, in the corner of an almost completely dark warehouse. It's not shot for any form of titillation, and viewers would probably be too weirded out at first to find this attractive. 'Maybe...'
  • Super Troll Island. ALL OF IT. Special mention to the "Level Complete" screen, though. 'Game is creepy, not the grumps.'
    Danny: The evil mist has been banished!
    Arin: NO IT HAS NOT!!
    Danny: Oh my god, that is just fuckin'- that's not even nightmare fuel, that's nightmare fuel to like... the nightmare bus. To drive off the nightmare cliff... into nightmare canyon.
  • Their playthrough of Dead Rising, specifically when they return to the security station after it's been abandoned, save for a zombified Jessie. As they read a note left by Otis, Jessie slowly stalks up to them in the most creepy manner possible. 'Game is scary, not the grumps.'
  • In Episode 46 of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, Arin mentions an adaptation of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe with a very intense portrayal of Aslan. But that's not the creepy part. This is the creepy part. 'Weblinks aren't examples.'
    RIDE ME!
  • Our house, in the middle of our house, our house... It gets so long that at one point, it starts showing tiny houses. First with a house being in someone's hands, then on the tip of someone's finger, then one that's so small, its size is comparable to specks of dust and just keeps shrinking down to the point where it's smaller than an atom and then just collapses in on itself, bringing the song to an abrupt halt. And this isn't even getting into when it's Gregory House... 'How is this scary? Confusing and surreal, sure, but scary?'
  • In Sonic Forces they deliberately pick the creepiest and most lifeless eyes for their fursona, and then make them bright red. It's a bit of a Jump Scare every time she shows up. 'I don't think this is all that scary, and they later customize the character so much you no longer even see them.'
  • Fans waited with bated breath in the comments for weeks for Dan's reaction to the Halfway Plot Switch in Doki Doki Literature Club. They were not disappointed. 'Game is scary, NOT THE GRUMPS.'
    Dan: WHAT?!

Jan 2nd 2019 at 2:08:55 PM

[up] I doubt Game Grumps would any real nightmare fuel, I have seen some of their videoes.

WarJay77 from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Jan 2nd 2019 at 2:16:15 PM

I watch them plenty and I'd agree with that. Some examples however might be legitimately creepy, but most everything on the show is played for laughs, so...

Jan 2nd 2019 at 3:29:18 PM

I don't get the "scene summary" thing. How are you able to determine something is or isn't scary without context?

WarJay77 from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Jan 2nd 2019 at 3:46:55 PM

[up] Context is one thing, describing the entire plot is another.