That says bad things about the power grid there if it can't handle a tropical storm to such a degree when the European power grids handled hurricane Cat 1-2 (with gusts reaching Cat 5) equivalent Kyrill in 2007.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanJust heard off CNN that Harvey and Irma have been officially retired as hurricane names.
edited 11th Sep '17 2:56:19 PM by rmctagg09
Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.Meanwhile Katia's remnant has crossed into the Pacific Ocean and reformed as a depression, but it doesn't seem to have much chance to develop into anything.
Jose is being torn apart by wind shear if the latest NHC forecast is to be trusted.
"Irma" was a beautiful name. Too bad that it was associated with such a disaster.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanMakes me wonder why they chose to use names that are commonly used by people. They know that each and every hurricane is likely to be disastrous, even if only locally so.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Plenty of tropical cyclones just out to sea, and other weaken significantly and are just glorified rainstorms by the time they hit a populated area.
As for their reasoning for the names, Wikipedia says its mostly about making communication with the public easier.
edited 11th Sep '17 3:17:53 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.In Germany it's in part money: People can have a weather system named after them for money. I'd imagine that common names are easier to use.
I dunno if having a destructive weather system named after you is a big deal; the English and German Wikipedia pages for "Kyrill" (a storm in Europe during 2007) discuss their etymology, maybe the sources say something about this. And I've seen some "human interest" stories lately about couples with a Harvey and an Irma maybe these stories have something to say too.
Note that while hurricane names are given in mixed gender (this year featured a "Harvey" and an "Irma"), in Europe in even numbered years highs get male names and lows female and in odd numbered years highs get female names and lows male names. Originally in both cases female names were used for hurricanes/storms which was then changed because it was sexist.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThese are the official name lists as determined by thw NWS/NOAA
. The Atlantic lists are rerun every six years and the rules for deriving them are governed by the World Meterological Orginization and they are only changed after a storm has been infamous enough to retire the name.
The WMO's page on the rationale behind the naming process.
edited 11th Sep '17 3:48:32 PM by Elle
Why You Can’t Take Your Eyes Off the Hurricane
- could also be titled "Possible Reasons Why Hurricane Irma Dominated The News Cycle".
The claim is that both governments and media tend to drama monger about impending disasters, for the sake of avoiding complacency and getting attention. Also, just like in storytelling school one is shown that a drama story builds up the drama and suspense, disasters that menace for a while before actually hitting can be easily spun into a story.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanAt least 6 residents of a nursing home have died, probably because the home lost power thanks to Irma, including air conditioning.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/health/florida-nursing-home-deaths/index.html
Me, I just find it funny that the Typhoon's named Talim considering my primary association with that name.
Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Um... why wouldn't it get circulated again? I really don't get taking a name out of circulation when a death toll happens. Big storms kill. It's a thing. It's what they do.
Sure, give it some time before you use that name again, but... Some triggers are OK. Particularly if they get you to take a warning seriously.
Well, yes, but what is so special about this storm when many others have their names retired despite a lower death toll? Following this list, anyhow
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Precisely to avoid the situation this thread is in right now. "Talim? You mean that one that killed a whole bunch of people like ten years ago?" "No, I mean the one happening right now."
The point of naming storms is to allow for clear and accurate communication. Once a name becomes (in)famous for causing a lot of death and/or destruction, then reusing it later will only cause confusion, since you have to specify that no, you don't mean the Hurricane Andrew from 1992 or the Hurricane Katrina from 2005.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Seriously, that's bogus. If there's a set rotation, people will get used to the names on it. The last Talim or whatever having a death count means you're thinking about comparing storms — and getting out of the way of them.
If Britain can handle a load of Kings Henry, I don't see how getting used to a set rotation system is all that tough. People get used to things — use it.
Hurricane names are rotated and some names have been used for several storms. If a name is associated with a particularly destructive storm, it is retired. Retirement is about sensitivity, not clarity.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

‘People are roaming like zombies.’ Virgin Islands stagger after storm passes.
That's from the US Virgin Islands, which like their British counterparts were ravaged.
Cuba is seeing severe flooding and damage especially on the north coast. Elsewhere there are still lots of people missing. Barbuda will need to be rebuilt completely.
[[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/09/09/the-eerie-online-silence-from-the-tiny-caribbean-islands-ravaged-by-hurricane-irma/?utm_term=.7b44b22638b1
The Intersect
The eerie online silence from the tiny Caribbean islands ravaged by Hurricane Irma]]. Predictable seeing as the Internet infrastructure such as power lines have been wiped out. Or more cynically because a lot of people are dead.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman