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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#176: Jun 16th 2023 at 5:49:23 AM

The box office isn't looking good btw. 9 M from Thursday. The same as shazam 2. Dc's biggest bomb.

Considering how much it got hyped. That's sad...

And considering it's reputed to have a massive budget especially because of lots of reshoots so it needs to make a lot to break even.

Which was half the reason Justice League failed to start with.

Maybe a cult can spring up that it was all executive meddling again and we need to give the director even more money to finish his 'original vision'.

Kind of happy them sticking with Miller isn't being reward from the early signs though.

Edited by dcutter2 on Jun 16th 2023 at 1:50:56 PM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#177: Jun 16th 2023 at 5:51:08 AM

Nah, Snyder's got all the cultists on his side. [lol]

People are tweeting all about that Restore the Snyderverse.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jun 16th 2023 at 8:51:27 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#178: Jun 16th 2023 at 5:51:57 AM

I think there's s Superhero fatigue but its not as widespread as people wish it was

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#179: Jun 16th 2023 at 5:53:21 AM

I've always felt that Superhero/Star Wars/whatever fatigue was just an excuse for lower quality products.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#180: Jun 16th 2023 at 5:53:27 AM

is it superhero fatigue or as Gunn has hypothesised generic movie fatigue?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#181: Jun 16th 2023 at 5:55:39 AM

This movie was originally announced not to tell a story but to reboot the franchise after the disastrous reception of the Snyder films.

Then it underwent massive delays, production problems, went through multiple directors, and it was constantly rewritten and reshot to lead into the next direction of DC films that was constantly in flux.

Let's be real, there was no chance this was gonna be good. It is a complete "By Committee" project, Black Adam has more artistic merit than this.

[up] It's just most movies are bad and tend to not do well. And well when you make a lot of superhero films, then sturgeon's law starts coming into effect.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 16th 2023 at 5:56:37 AM

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LucienRen Since: Jan, 2023
#182: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:14:45 AM

Rumors of fatigue go back as far as 2013 (A year before a bunch of D-listed superheroes became the 3rd highest grossing movie of the year.)

Then, who knows?

Edited by LucienRen on Jun 16th 2023 at 7:17:00 AM

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#183: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:15:55 AM

Once the executives start interfering and making second-guesses of the franchise's direction, The Chris Carter Effect comes to play.

Why would I be interested in a movie where I can tell has no sense of narrative direction? If I want to see Gunn's rebooted universe, I'll start there. I don't need some Crisis on Infinite Earth event to justify switching to a new universe.

LucienRen Since: Jan, 2023
#184: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:21:19 AM

That the DC Animated Movie Universe ended with a reboot, made me lose all interest in watching the movies I was missing.

Why see them, if I already know that everything is for nothing.

Honestly, the apocalypse movie should have been an Elserword, instead of the canon ending.

Edited by LucienRen on Jun 16th 2023 at 7:30:43 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#185: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:25:34 AM

It was their mistake doing a whole animated movie continuity and unnecessary at that since previous movies worked fine as standalone

And honestly for the worse since they wound up butchering several stories like Reign of Supermen just to fit into the universes setting

Fuck Darkseid for taking over what is a Mongul and Cyborg Superman story

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#186: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:27:07 AM

Darkseid is like Ganon,he has to Big Bad,always!

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#187: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:28:17 AM

Or how in the Hush movie they replaced Tim Drake and Huntress with Damian and Barbara Gordon Batgirl

Like Hush may not be the best story but it sucks those characters got cut and replaced just to keep accurate to their shitty setting

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#188: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:28:41 AM

Maybe a cult can spring up that it was all executive meddling again and we need to give the director even more money to finish his 'original vision'.

Maybe it’s not too late to get a Miller-less version then. tongue

This movie was originally announced not to tell a story but to reboot the franchise after the disastrous reception of the Snyder films.

Wasn’t The Flash first announced in 2014 for a 2016 release? The only Snyder film out at the time was Man of Steel.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#189: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:31:36 AM

This movie def didn't feel like a grand finale that it should have been for Snyder's verse.

Even ending with Zod winning.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#190: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:37:00 AM

Zod is the DCEU Ganon. Even has a demon form.

Edited by Mizerous on Jun 16th 2023 at 10:37:42 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#191: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:42:40 AM

Darkseid would have been DCEU Ganon but you know....[lol]

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#193: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:56:56 AM

I shudder to think how underwhelming Snyder's Darkseid would have been

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#194: Jun 16th 2023 at 7:59:46 AM

Eeh, he looked intimidating enough… if not for the fact that his introduction scene was him getting his ass kicked on Temischyra.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#195: Jun 16th 2023 at 8:00:54 AM

[up][up] Honestly though, I think Snyder's aesthetic worked great for Darkseid and Apokolips.

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#196: Jun 16th 2023 at 8:05:26 AM

I found Granny Goodness hot... >_>

Just Makima.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#197: Jun 16th 2023 at 8:07:30 AM

I feel like he would have fell exactly the same into how he was portrayed in Justice League War

Just a big evil guy for them to punch

No character or anything

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#198: Jun 16th 2023 at 8:17:29 AM

The Rotten Tomato Audience Score has dropped, 95% to a current 87% Critic Score from 72% to 69%

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#199: Jun 16th 2023 at 8:19:19 AM

> I found Granny Goodness hot... >_>

thats against the law

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#200: Jun 16th 2023 at 8:19:28 AM

Big oof [up] I mean compare her comic look to that.

Edited by Mizerous on Jun 16th 2023 at 11:20:01 AM

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