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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#102: Jul 25th 2017 at 3:26:51 PM

So this comes out Friday. Uuuugh, I really hope it does as bad as we're all hoping, especially after that Twitter post.

Seriously, who thought that was a good idea.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#103: Jul 25th 2017 at 3:27:14 PM

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The executives who thought this was profitable.

Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#104: Jul 25th 2017 at 10:44:15 PM

[up]But the chart says

Hmm, yeah, I fail to see the logic in using an original series regarding a dystopia where dudes commit unspeakable junk to women to promote your cashgrab of a PG-rated movie.

This was probably just a case of innocent stupidity on Sonys part but it still is no... just no.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#105: Jul 25th 2017 at 11:12:08 PM

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Television executives are on another level of stupid. tongue

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#106: Jul 26th 2017 at 1:09:03 AM
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Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#107: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:01:43 AM

[up][up]average executive intelligence rankings

1. Book publishers

2. Film executives

3. Comics executives

4. Games publishers

5. TV executives.

edited 26th Jul '17 8:02:03 AM by Thelastwarrior

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#108: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:27:18 AM

Ok, guys, let's rein it in before things get too nasty.


For some reason, I always find myself confusing Blue Sky's movies (especially the upcoming Ferdinand) for Sony movies. I'm not sure why. Maybe the aesthetic of both company's movies are similar?

"Hey, least I didn't lose all my artistic talent when I crash landed in the arena here."
Yeow95 unpaid intern of the stars from your local mcdonalds Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#110: Jul 26th 2017 at 1:43:54 PM

Information about an Emoji Movie advance screening today confirms my suspicions—a embargo has been placed on all reviews (print, TV, radio, and social media/online) until the day of the film's release.

There you have it folks.

edited 26th Jul '17 1:44:21 PM by Yeow95

has a clue, but it's usually not the correct one 0.55% of the time
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#111: Jul 26th 2017 at 2:04:37 PM

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That should tell you a lot about what to expect. tongue

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#112: Jul 26th 2017 at 2:12:53 PM

That is just what I was afraid of...

"Hey, least I didn't lose all my artistic talent when I crash landed in the arena here."
Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#113: Jul 26th 2017 at 3:40:28 PM

I have no idea if "Sony does a review embargo" or "the film is in the mediocre to horrible range" should be the free space on the emoji movie bingo card.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#114: Jul 26th 2017 at 4:31:18 PM

The previews didn't make me want to go to a theater to see it myself, but it did look silly enough to watch on Netflix for "far less money", which works for me.

Also, being they're riding their entire movie career on this movie, it does make sense to let people judge it by seeing it themselves with absolutely zero knowledge of how really good it is till after release.

I don't expect it to be good, but it's about all they can do to minimize risk. I think it's silly to put it all on this movie, though. They already have other IP's they can work with anyway.

Shadow?
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#115: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:21:39 PM

According to this interview the Emoji Movie came about when the director was thinking about Toy Story and new toys that haven't been explored yet, someone texted him an emoji on his phone, and the idea for the movie hit.

Wikipedia also summarizes "In fleshing out the story, Leondis considered having the emojis visit the real world. However, his producer felt that it was a much more interesting concept to explore the world inside a phone, which inspired Leondis to create the story of where and how the emojis lived. As Leondis is gay, he connected to Gene's plight of "being different in a world that expects you to be one thing" and in eventually realizing that the feeling held true for most people, Leondis has said the film "was very personal"

edited 26th Jul '17 8:22:13 PM by lalalei2001

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Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#116: Jul 27th 2017 at 7:05:27 AM

As Leondis is gay, he connected to Gene's plight of "being different in a world that expects you to be one thing" and in eventually realizing that the feeling held true for most people, Leondis has said the film "was very personal"

the cynical side of me is saying that he is trying to guilt people into liking it. But I prefer to think that he was being sincere when he said this.

edited 27th Jul '17 7:06:55 AM by Thelastwarrior

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#117: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:03:12 AM

At least it's not yet another "characters that aren't humans go into the human world" plot, which would have undoubtedly ruined the MLP movie if Sony had ended up distributing it.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#118: Jul 27th 2017 at 9:03:56 AM

[up] I know, right? I wish executives would stop fixating over human-focused adaptations.

Not every single adaptation of cartoons needs a human that nobody will give a hoot about.

I'm glad the MLP movie is focusing on having a grand-scale adventure...in 2D!

[up][up] Now about The You-Know-What Movie's director being gay, I wasn't expecting that when I read about it in an interview for the movie on Animation Scoop. While I also think he was being sincere when he said that, it's hard not to think Sony will use it to guilt people into watching it.

But come on! Sony wouldn't go that far...would they?

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#119: Jul 27th 2017 at 9:05:48 AM

I still call this plot unimaginative and uninspired.

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#120: Jul 27th 2017 at 10:43:53 AM

I agree. The director made a character he greatly identifies with and hopes others will too, that's great. The problem is that the plot is still something that's been done many times over.

Box-office predictions are coming in for the You-Know-What Movie.

"Hey, least I didn't lose all my artistic talent when I crash landed in the arena here."
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#121: Jul 27th 2017 at 11:25:27 AM

The first is Sony’s “Emoji Movie.” Despite the “Confused Face” or “Face With Rolling Eyes” that some deployed when the animated feature based on iPhone keyboard pictorials was announced, it now looks to have the upper hand this weekend, eyeballing up to $30 million from 4,069 theaters. The studio has it pegged closer to $20 million. In fairness, tracking shows a rather wide margin (albeit still not huge on the upper end).

That’s partially because it’s an original project, so it’s more difficult to tell how audiences will respond. The studio hopes for a long tail based on word of mouth. Visibility for the film has been exceptionally strong thanks to an aggressive marketing push that included T.J. Miller parasailing into Cannes to help launch the movie’s first trailer. Reviews have yet to be released, but films that target children are arguably the most critic-proof, considering kids are more likely to act on instinct, and (hopefully) not based on what someone says on Twitter. “The Emoji Movie” is the first major animated release since “Despicable Me 3” four weeks ago. It carries an estimated budget of $50 million.

So...they actually think the You-Know-What movie will be a hit? And that kids will want to see this based on instinct and not what Twitter is saying about it?

(Deep breath in.)

(Deep breath out.)

...I respectfully disagree on both cases.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#122: Jul 27th 2017 at 11:35:21 AM

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That's the problem the executives are adults who think what they are selling will be a hit with the kids, but the demographic would say otherwise.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#123: Jul 27th 2017 at 11:45:53 AM

As I said, there's some neat ideas behind it, but there's no way it'll succeed. It's basically a rewrite of Wreck-It Ralph too. People won't judge it on its own merits.

Another issue is Emojis aren't like other characters. The purpose of them is to be one-note inherently. It has problems with the premise.

Shadow?
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#124: Jul 27th 2017 at 11:51:33 AM

So they're going the "Teen-Titans-Go!-kids-will-like-it-anyway-screw-the-critics" route. Classy.

I freaking hate that train of thought.

edited 27th Jul '17 11:55:16 AM by kablammin45

"Hey, least I didn't lose all my artistic talent when I crash landed in the arena here."
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#125: Jul 27th 2017 at 12:28:21 PM

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I despise that mentality, because kids actually tell crap from good more than adults realize.


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