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I will not pronounce about Lady Tremaine, for I do not know Disney's Cinderella.
About the other affair, there can be multiple facts that sink someone deeper in the MEH.
We can start off by cleaning up misused potholes inking to the trope for starters, because I see more of those than the examples.
From YMMV.Kingdom Hearts Coded:
Cut it. If there's one dude who breaks the Moral Event Horizon in that series it's Master Xenahort and only him.
Hi. Can I participate this discussion? I have some examples for this trope in mind. And here it is:
The first one is from a guy called Yuuto Ijika from Twin Star Exorcists. Yuuto crosses this line when he corrupts the innocent orphanage students into an Eldritch Abomination and ended up putting them in an And I Must Scream situation. This resulted them to wreck havoc in the dormitory and not only that, Yuuto's friend,Rokuro, was forced to kill most of them and this ended up giving a huge trauma to Rokuro and he doesn't want to perform exorcist again and after this incident, He went worse from there.
So with the first example out of the way........Do you think it's a MEH or not in your opinion?
edited 30th Aug '17 9:14:08 AM by ElfenLiedFan90
Is the character portrayed as positively after that and does he redeem himself? If so, the example should be cut.
Problem is that he used to be a sweet kid in the past and shows a care towards his sister and also a good friend to the main protagonist but in his real first appearance after the tragedy, it was revealed to be nothing but a facade and he doesn't redeem himself
edited 16th Sep '17 2:11:01 AM by ElfenLiedFan90
Then he counts. That just sounds like a Femto situation.
Also, I added the Moral Event Horizon for Whale Talk and it looks like this:
I think he counts since the character was never portrayed in a good way and did not redeem himself after that incident. That event really stains Rich's character actually
edited 16th Sep '17 10:14:03 AM by ElfenLiedFan90
The Moral Event Horizon example in The Lost World: Jurassic Park:
edited 24th Sep '17 1:22:16 PM by MagBas
That's part of Designated Hero. It doesn't cross Moral Event Horizon if the character is considered forgiven by the work.
I noted that "The Boys Of Bummer" was added again to The Simpsons. Following the edit reason, this was removed following the thread.
The The Lost World Jurassic Park example was added again.
edited 16th Oct '17 4:09:16 AM by MagBas
Just delete the non examples. I think there should be guidelines regarding the misuse of strong evil tropes.
In the Western animaton subpage, I deleted an example for Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends regarding the character Bendy. The antics Bendy did was For the Evulz, rather than irredeemably evil.
edited 18th Oct '17 5:42:12 AM by MsCC93
I'm going to delete vegeta from dragon ball as well as accelerater from a certain magical railgun as both have been redeemed, forgiven in-universe and become a better people since thoose events that are listed so that is a cut.
Can I add some Moral Event Horizon examples for Ace Attorney series? For example like this:
Or something lie that
edited 20th Oct '17 9:01:28 AM by ElfenLiedFan90
Those look a little weak to me. Remember that the trope is for when there's absolutely no chance of redemption for those characters.
edited 20th Oct '17 9:11:57 AM by AnotherDuck
Try them actually killing someone which is why thoose two are listed on the cm page.
Try actually writing that in the example.
I cut the persona 4 killer due to his redemption after his game as well as wanting to atone later in the sequel.
edited 29th Oct '17 7:16:37 AM by miraculous
While he's being a massive jerk, I don't think "forcing someone to wear bunny pijamas in public" is a MEH.
edited 29th Oct '17 11:37:50 AM by Silverblade2
oh my God cut that as I just cut a serial killer and straw Nihilist who tried to turn humanity into demons because he got redeemed. That is nowhere near bad enough for this trope.
Revenge of the Sith:
Heres another one from the Darth Vader comic book. Which is Canon BTW
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How well does it match the trope?