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FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#7651: Mar 28th 2021 at 9:41:51 PM

Its less he has the best of everything but more he just has overall good answers to everything

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#7652: Mar 30th 2021 at 4:28:30 AM

I can see that. This video actually got me trying out Kid Buu and I like how he feels, he's kinda...me-friendly.

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#7653: Mar 30th 2021 at 5:20:19 PM

It's been a while but the last time I played him, he felt very scrub-friendly. Being able to confirm damn-anything is a really good feeling.

I don't remember if Janemeba could do the same thing?

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#7654: Mar 31st 2021 at 8:03:10 PM

Fan-made tier lists for this game are ridiculous. Top tiers are like SSS+, mid-tiers are SS-, and bottom-tiers are A+. But no character is bad, seriously.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#7655: Mar 31st 2021 at 11:39:24 PM

Actually, I really don't see any bad characters in this game.

A lot of tier list says it's supposed to be Black but he looks more than just viable. I've seen a lot of characters working mostly because they just know how the characters work. Videl still looks like crap & I've seen some impressive games with her.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#7656: Apr 2nd 2021 at 4:24:39 PM

I think I've asked this before....but did we ever find out if 21 had infinite energy generators like 16, 17, and 18?

I know she's essentially the illegitimate child of Cell and Buu (she's an improved version of Cell due to the Buu cells in her body), but it's never been made clear if she's got those unending energy like the other three or not.

Or has it been stated somewhere? I'm not really sure.

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FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#7657: Apr 2nd 2021 at 4:26:51 PM

I mean shouldn't Cell have unlimited Energy once he reaches perfection?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#7658: Apr 2nd 2021 at 4:43:32 PM

You'd think so but he still seemed to be getting tired during his fight with Goku (I recall it being said he was getting weaker, just that Goku was weakening at a far faster rate).

That's a little unclear as well, but I kinda got the impression that, in addition to helping him cross that Pretty boy line, Absorbing 17 and 18 gave him a ridiculously vast amount of energy (not unlimited, but still so much it may as well have been).

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#7659: Apr 3rd 2021 at 12:10:07 AM

You would think literally absorbing 2 characters that have infinite energy would give you that ability as well.


As far as I know when I researched the character 21 still has a finite amount of energy like everyone else. That being said, I never saw any of Buus run out of energy either & I don't see why that would apply to 21 as well.

MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#7660: Apr 3rd 2021 at 5:06:53 AM

I'm guessing its a case of the Buu line being explicitly magical in nature. Probably Chaos magic.

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#7661: Apr 3rd 2021 at 6:35:21 AM

The way I figure it, 17 and 18 have infinite energy generators that constantly produce energy at their own Power Level. Cell absorbing them means he has two generators of energy inside his body that constantly produce a low amount of energy compared to his own massive Power Level. Like,

  • 17: 380M

  • 18: 340M

  • Perfect Cell: 4B (with energy generators infinitely creating energy at the level of 380M and 340M, so it's a much slower rate of recharge)

Also, we do see Fat Buu running out of energy against Kid Buu. That seems to be what separates Buu from 18: 18 has infinite stamina but no healing factor, while Buu has an unlimited healing factor but finite stamina.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#7662: Apr 3rd 2021 at 6:37:07 AM

Buu has the advantage that he is hard to kill and failing to do so just puts him at 100% again

Edited by fasoman1996 on Apr 3rd 2021 at 1:37:24 PM

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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#7663: Apr 3rd 2021 at 10:01:29 AM

Buu is shown to be tired more than once, the reason it doesn't see like it is that he is either facing people weaker than him or that are comparable to him but bleed energy at Sonic speed.

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#7664: Apr 3rd 2021 at 2:01:55 PM

That and like the above post said he regens at 100%. Power levels don't really mean shit against a guy who can regen from everything short of gibbing and atomizing the gibs.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#7665: Apr 3rd 2021 at 2:42:21 PM

He can't regen from being beaten to death apparently.

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#7666: Apr 3rd 2021 at 3:52:27 PM

I'm guessing its a case of the Buu line being explicitly magical in nature. Probably Chaos magic.

Is that a Wanda reference? IDK enough about magic tropes to tell.


Also, we do see Fat Buu running out of energy against Kid Buu. That seems to be what separates Buu from 18: 18 has infinite stamina but no healing factor, while Buu has an unlimited healing factor but finite stamina.

That's a pretty good way to explain it. Thanks, Xenoverse. But not really, your games are way too grindy & you should more ambitious instead of the bare minimum


Buu is shown to be tired more than once, the reason it doesn't see like it is that he is either facing people weaker than him or that are comparable to him but bleed energy at Sonic speed.

Actually, I would like to know these examples. All I can think of is how Fat Buu was somehow getting worn out against Kid Buu, Super Buu & Fat Buu being completely by Vegetto & Beerus, & the 2 times Buu fell asleep in Super.

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#7667: Apr 3rd 2021 at 5:13:25 PM

I was referring to those examples and a bit of Ultimate Gohan although it's not shown in the manga cause he revenge bombs right away, he seems a bit winded from fighting Super Gotenks 3 as well but again Gotenks bleeds Energy.

But yeah, as I said it's not often Buu faces an opponent that outclasses him so much his stamina starts to fail, his stamina is above average still.

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#7668: Apr 3rd 2021 at 8:47:00 PM

Oh, well I guess that answers my question.


I still think Super Buu should've been in the game just for the sake of having a team of Buus

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#7669: Apr 4th 2021 at 6:42:08 AM

Android 21 fits that niche.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#7670: Apr 4th 2021 at 8:11:32 AM

The best Super Buu to add would have been the Gohan Absorbed form, since that would give him a distinct enough movelist to not make him redundant with Kid Buu.

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#7671: Apr 4th 2021 at 12:02:17 PM

I made a Super Buu moveset a while back, and just going by the manga, he only has just barely enough moves for a full moveset if you use every move he does in all of his appearances. It's a pretty good moveset, though, pretty distinct from both Fat Buu and Kid Buu.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#7672: Apr 4th 2021 at 6:32:27 PM

Still liked what I read but I'm also cool with them making him like Necrid.


Android 21 fits that niche.

I'm still talking about a team of the character, not the species.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#7673: May 3rd 2021 at 6:43:49 AM

Goku Day is a few days away, ya guys think we are getting anything for it? At the very least some tints and a balance patch would be ok.

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#7674: May 3rd 2021 at 6:52:21 AM

I think we're done with DLC. I think we're gonna get one final, major balance patch that MAYBE comes with a Dramatic Finish or something, and that's it, the game will be done.

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#7675: May 3rd 2021 at 6:55:51 AM

Onto the sequel.

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