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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#201: Aug 9th 2017 at 4:15:01 PM

To be honest I don't see what Naruto's doing as covering up Sasuke's crimes. It's not like knowledge of him is forbidden it's just restricted to those who need to know. Not everybody needs to know his history so frankly restricting it is in no way a bad thing.

lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#202: Aug 9th 2017 at 4:33:53 PM

Sealing records of pardoned crimes is an actual thing in real life isn't it?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#203: Aug 9th 2017 at 4:35:37 PM

[up][up] If you have to restrict access about somebody, that usually means you're trying to prevent something from getting out.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#204: Aug 9th 2017 at 5:02:58 PM

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With this move, Naruto goes from being an idealist trying to fight the system to being a part of it.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#205: Aug 9th 2017 at 6:18:16 PM

...Naruto was never trying to fight the system, he just wanted people to respect him and to save his best friend.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#206: Aug 9th 2017 at 6:40:16 PM

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In the end of the Wave of arc, he said he wouldn't become a product of the system.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#207: Aug 9th 2017 at 7:15:17 PM

Yeah, the whole cycle of hatred thing. Given the unprecedented peace between villages he helped forged, mission accomplished ther.e

IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#208: Aug 9th 2017 at 7:34:39 PM

Yeah, I never understood why people thought he was going to be some revolutionary tearing down the ninja system when his goal from day one was to become a leader in that system.

Does anyone actually read these?
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#209: Aug 9th 2017 at 9:12:01 PM

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Mostly because the system sucks and the so-called peace seems like a handwave rather than showing it was actually accomplished.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#210: Aug 10th 2017 at 6:09:15 AM

You mean like sharing everyone's feelings and memories to allow them to better understand one another and having them put aside differences to face a common enemy bent on ending the world?

Seriously, some complaints don't hold up.

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#211: Aug 10th 2017 at 6:17:39 AM

Well, it's black ops so no surprise there.

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#212: Aug 10th 2017 at 9:24:35 AM

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In execution of the story, it really was too idealistic and came off as hamfisted.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#213: Aug 10th 2017 at 10:09:33 AM

[up]It didn't come across as hamfisted to me. Then again, I tend to prefer idealistic stories.

Hell, Chouji and Karui getting hitched was definitely out of left field, but one thing I liked about it is that it's yet another example of the various villages mending their relationships, having become Fire-Forged Friends of sorts after the whole Great War.

edited 10th Aug '17 10:12:36 AM by dragonfire5000

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#214: Aug 10th 2017 at 10:29:31 AM

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The thing is the role of ninjas is to thrive off conflict, and with this new peace how are ninjas keeping their jobs in the new status quo.

Also I notice the Boruto anime is trying to make Hinata more of a scary mom, which kind of contradicts her character in so many ways. Also we've seen tons of the scary mom thing over and over again to the point you can say it's cliche. I think they are trying to make her too much like Kushina, when that was never really her character.

I can understand they want to give her more of a backbone, but I think they should do it in a way that doesn't make her a carbon copy of every Almighty Mom we've already seen in the series.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#215: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:34:03 AM

this is what I mean about complaining for the sake of complaining.

Do we expect Hinata to be a total pushover as a mom? Everything we see is she's a total sweetheart with her husband and kids, but can be firm with them if need be. How exactly is her being shy and weaker in her teens an example of that being out of character when she's had years to grow into the role of being a mother?

And it's not like there aren't jobs for ninja to do. The ninja villages have been shown as a relatively small part of the world, there are still renegades, criminals, the occasional villains, etc.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#216: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:41:21 AM

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The thing is character consistency, which sometimes this series tends to fail at in order to push a certain characterization. The consistent thing is to make Hinata more assertive, but she doesn't act like how Sakura would act in that situation. It's not complaining to complain, but the fact that the writers will change an aspect of a character that never was a trait of theirs.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#217: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:47:13 AM

A character developing after changes in her life (like, say, graduating from being a shy, insecure teenager to a more confident woman which was a not-insignificant part of The Last) to the point she can be more confident and assertive after years with her husband and children is...inconsistent somehow? Because Hinata actually grew as a person?

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#218: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:48:25 AM

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The thing is as a character Hinata hasn't had an a natural on-screen development to show how she has changed. That's a major issue is changing a character around, then calling it character development. It's more like Character Derailment.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#219: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:48:28 AM

[up][up][up]...And why would Hinata act like Sakura in that situation? The two are completely different people, each with their own way of being assertive.

[up]...No. No, it's really not Character Derailment. Her being more assertive is us seeing how the many years after the events of the manga, as well as becoming a mother, changed her. The core aspects of her character are still present: kind, gentle, and supportive of her loved ones. Those core aspects have to be absent before we can even consider Character Derailment.

edited 10th Aug '17 11:51:49 AM by dragonfire5000

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#220: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:51:12 AM

Did not see the Last? We saw her grow right there.

Seeing her later as a loving mother who can on occasion be stern when it's warranted is not Character Derailment by any stretch of the imagination. That's just silly.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#221: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:51:59 AM

Getting scary and angry is more like Sakura's field.

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There is a reason why people hate the Last, one of which is the fact that it's a bad idea to set important characterization to one single part.

Another thing is it would make sense she would get more assertive, but I don't think in the way she is depicted in the current series which fits more like Sakura's.

edited 10th Aug '17 11:53:46 AM by firewriter

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#222: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:53:13 AM

Yeah, I thought that The Last covered things neatly as far as last-minute characterization goes for Hinata. "Gentle, but firm when needed", I can definitely see her as, especially as a mom to her kids.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#223: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:54:07 AM

It's like if she's not shaking in a corner, begging Boruto to go to school and be a good boy, it's character derailment?

She didn't shout. she didn't attack her own house. She turned on her Byakugan and confronted him about something he did wrong with an intimidating look. That's all. There's nothing contradictory about being a sweet mother and taking a hard line with her son for truancy.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#224: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:54:31 AM

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I don't see her using the scary eyes as being the "gentle, but firm" approach, but something Sakura would do if she was a Hyuuga.

edited 10th Aug '17 11:54:43 AM by firewriter

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#225: Aug 10th 2017 at 11:59:16 AM

Stop referencing Sakura already.

Hinata has, again, not resorting to obliterating her own house in a fit of pique


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