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Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#151: Jun 3rd 2017 at 2:38:54 PM

It could go ether way really. We'll see where things are at the halfway point in two episodes.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#152: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:29:24 PM

[up][up] Yeah, she's obviously just there to cause trouble in the middle part of the story, but I don't expect her to survive a lot longer. Two, maybe three more episodes max.

On another note... man Alice is gullible as hell.

Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#153: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:58:29 PM

If she survives past the first cour then I think she has the potential to be the big villain. If only because she's actually out there doing stuff while Altair broods and looks cool.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#154: Jun 3rd 2017 at 7:51:18 PM

Alice is totally going to be the Lancer of this series, isn't she?

Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#155: Jun 3rd 2017 at 8:50:19 PM

SUFFERING! Being a Lancer is it. ect ect.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#156: Jun 4th 2017 at 7:50:49 AM

Meanwhile Selessia continues to play second fiddle to Meteora. Can't say I was expecting that when the series began. Not that I mind, Meteora's been pretty stellar on being a good character in her own right despite her expositional tendencies and I really liked her interaction with Sota here, especially since the dumb kid seemed close to cracking under Magane's influence.

Mecha Pilot and Gruff Detective are getting shafted. I think Mecha Pilot's Creator has contributed more to the plot.

I suppose any of the characters watching Mamika's show are going to feel really bad now: seeing how she was supposed to be vs how she ended up.

edited 4th Jun '17 7:52:04 AM by Parable

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#157: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:46:23 PM

Well, if anything the problem with Meteora is that she's too perfect. She magically figures out everything that's going on, and is also basically the leader of the good guys. Throw in her supportive personality, and I'm guessing she's going to die soon. I mean, Alice is obviously going to kill her, if that's the case. So Meteora will ultimately be subject to Mentor Occupational Hazard.

edited 4th Jun '17 12:47:54 PM by Clarste

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#158: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:53:33 PM

Meteora has been more of a plot device than a character. And a convenient on for the heroes. So yeah, she might die soon.

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#159: Jun 4th 2017 at 1:26:57 PM

Or be the villain. [lol]

“You can’t be an important and life-changing presence for some people without also being a joke and embarrassment to others.” -Mark Manson.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#160: Jun 4th 2017 at 1:29:05 PM

I've heard people speculating that, but it becomes increasingly less likely with each episode, and they definitely set up a bunch of death flags in this one. Well, less death flags and more narrative beats that would be a waste of time unless Alice is going to kill her.

Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#161: Jun 4th 2017 at 2:33:03 PM

One of the more villainous characters needs to die first before another one of the heroes bites it. Just because if they don't DIAA will start to creep in.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#162: Jun 4th 2017 at 2:37:03 PM

Well, maybe so, but honestly this show hasn't struck me as especially well written, so even if they end up shooting themselves in the foot because of it, I still think it'll happen.

Actually, I kind of get the impression that both Mamika and Meteora have gotten so much attention so early in the show precisely because they were always planned to die first, and they wanted to make sure they'd gotten their development first. Which is why characters like Rui, Selestia, and Altair have been relatively ignored. It's not their "time" yet. I wouldn't say this is a great way of writing a series like this, but that's the impression I've gotten.

edited 4th Jun '17 2:37:33 PM by Clarste

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#163: Jun 4th 2017 at 10:41:14 PM

DIAA? Here?

I don't see it. Like at all.

Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#164: Jun 4th 2017 at 10:50:32 PM

Darkness Induced Audience Apathy, and yeah, it could happen. It would require a lot. I just put forth the idea it might creep in (not set in in full) if another hero eats it before a villain.

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#165: Jun 5th 2017 at 3:15:01 AM

[up]What if MUPpet was offscreen'ed by Mamika?

edited 5th Jun '17 3:15:11 AM by googlebot

“You can’t be an important and life-changing presence for some people without also being a joke and embarrassment to others.” -Mark Manson.
NHunter from a certain asteroid with two towers Since: Jan, 2016
#166: Jun 5th 2017 at 3:42:58 AM

[up] Nope, she only suffered a head trauma and now has a completely-innocent alter-ego.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#167: Jun 5th 2017 at 5:29:47 AM

[up][up][up]The thing so far is that there are only two villains anyway (Altair and Magane), and everyone else is a misunderstood hero of some sort. So it'd be difficult to kill off a villain first. Well, I suppose we know almost nothing about the mysterious gunman yet, but that's all the more reason he's not going to die soon.

Incidentally, it was pointed out on another forum that if Magane's curses last forever, then what she did to Alice is still in effect. Meaning that if Alice ever tries to stab her with the spear, she'll get stabbed instead. That seems like it could be a Chekhov's Gun.

edited 5th Jun '17 5:30:20 AM by Clarste

MarquisDev LOVE WINS from somewhere in the West Since: Aug, 2011
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#168: Jun 5th 2017 at 6:21:46 AM

[up] My thoughts too

So it's possible Alice does kill Meteora, then realizes she's been tricked. She goes for Magane and then dead. Though part of me does not want her to attack or kill Meteora just because I do not want her to be that dumb. Alice immediately did not trust Magane when they first met so I want to give her the benefit of the doubt she knows Magane is tricking her to attack Meteora and goes along with it to then surprise attack Magane but curse kicks in.

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Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#169: Jun 5th 2017 at 6:37:58 AM

I don't see either Meteora nor Magane die anytime soon (I might be wrong with Meteora though). I mean can yiubimagine anyone less prone dying than live child if Izaya and Joker? I wouldn't be surprised if she survived whole show.

WoodyAlien3rd from Persimmon Land (Italy) Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: Omelette du fromage~
#170: Jun 5th 2017 at 6:53:44 AM

So, I just watched episode 9, still just as verbose and padded out as the others.

Honestly, I'm with Magane on this one: really getting tired of this show having all characters display Prometheus-levels of idiocy just to get the plot going. If there's nobody around, why can't Meteora just summon cannons and kill Magane on the spot? Why can't Mamika just say "Altair killed me" instead of "this person" this and "Alice-chan" that? And while the government was presented to us as competent, they sure didn't do a whole lot of research on Magane's background to alert the others on her powers, let alone warned that there's a dangerous person dressed with a black school uniform going around (and why Magane herself doesn't change clothes as the other girls did is beyond me). And the less said about Alice, the better...

I'm sticking just to see who are these new characters coming to the real world and hope they're not drooling morons as well.

"Effective Altruism" is just another bunch of horsesh*t.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#171: Jun 5th 2017 at 7:00:52 AM

Though part of me does not want her to attack or kill Meteora just because I do not want her to be that dumb. Alice immediately did not trust Magane when they first met so I want to give her the benefit of the doubt she knows Magane is tricking her to attack Meteora and goes along with it to then surprise attack Magane but curse kicks in.

On the other hand, she was kind of planning on killing Meteora anyway? Not specifically, for a grudge, but just in general as one of her several enemies. So it's not much of a stretch for her to believe that one of her enemies killed one of her allies. Frankly, it changes nothing for her, other than to make her prioritize Meteora over anyone else on that side.

Why can't Mamika just say "Altair killed me" instead of "this person" this and "Alice-chan" that?

Yeah, that part seemed especially contrived to me. "Listen to Magane" is actually longer than "Altair killed me." I mean, maybe Alice wouldn't realize who Altair is, but at least she'd be inclined to do her research. A similar outcome could've been achieved without any dying words at all: just find her corpse and swear vengeance on her enemies.

edited 5th Jun '17 7:04:01 AM by Clarste

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#172: Jun 5th 2017 at 8:33:51 AM

It is a damn shame that Mamika's dying words were so vague. Very clunky and annoying way to make Alice gun for Meteora.

Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#173: Jun 10th 2017 at 10:08:24 AM

Well that was an episode.

I fucking hate all the villains in this show now. They can all die horrible karmatic deaths.

SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#174: Jun 10th 2017 at 10:21:36 AM

"Woohoo! End of part 1!"

Oh Magane, you're a fucking monster, but you're hard to hate.

Also, poor poor Alice. Anti-Villain and Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds are putting it lightly. =(

Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#175: Jun 10th 2017 at 10:35:50 AM

Darkness induced audience apathy has set in for me. If things don't change next episode I'm dropping the show. I'm tired of the heroes getting punted.


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