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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#126: May 27th 2017 at 12:48:45 AM

The show does suffer from a Slow-Paced Beginning. After about episode 4 or 5, the plot and action really get going.

GabrieltheThird Anvilicious Since: Apr, 2012
Anvilicious
#127: May 27th 2017 at 2:29:57 AM

[up][up] My impression basically lines up with that. This show really wants to come off as smart, but keeps falling short with long bits of somewhat nonsensical exposition and people being convinced by faulty logic. Also a bunch of the character actions in general don't make much sense.

I don't mind things being slow, but I do mind things being stupid.

It's a shame as the show has some neat bits of animation flourishes and I actually really like the character designs of the fictional characters. They brilliantly walk the line of inspired yet generic, which fits their background to a T. I also like the role Meteora, who usually would be a support character, has taken as the core of the group.

Any praise in that regard and in design is then immediately undercut by Shota, however, who is an annoying wet blanket and really shouldn't have as much screen time as he does. Plus the insistence of other characters to keep him around when there really wasn't much of a reason, at least not before the blatantly obvious twist about his connection to the main villain. In a smarter show a character like him could be used to subvert expectations, but I don't trust the show enough to think that'll be the case here.

So yeah, I find this show really frustrating. It tries to be all meta and subversive, which are basically catnip for me when it comes to shows, but doesn't have the writing chops to pull that off. It still looks sorta neat, I suppose.

AlphaVII Mecha and Waifu, become one! from A part of the endless starry sky Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Mecha and Waifu, become one!
#128: May 27th 2017 at 7:17:42 AM

And it doesn't help how boring the MC is. Literally has the personality of a plank of wood.

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NHunter from a certain asteroid with two towers Since: Jan, 2016
#129: May 27th 2017 at 8:32:00 AM

The what's-his-name MC keeps getting worse. Seriously, he failed to confess that he knows about Altair's origins after Ms. Exposition told him they discovered a few things...

On a more interesting note: Mamika is into Alice. Not that anyone really doubted it, but now it's "official". Alas, it look like it's not meant to be. At least Mamika goes out with a big boom.

edited 27th May '17 8:42:13 AM by NHunter

Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#130: May 27th 2017 at 9:58:30 AM

I kind of suspected she'd be the first to die.

Sota is in deep shit now. I'm still fairly confident that at Altair's end game Magane is going to usurp her. I get serious Gremlin/Sora from Kamen Rider Wizard vibes from her.

edited 27th May '17 10:09:38 AM by Silentedge89

NHunter from a certain asteroid with two towers Since: Jan, 2016
#131: May 27th 2017 at 10:14:19 AM

[up] At least now we know why she's doing all this: she wants everyone to pay for making Setsuna commit suicide. Though, how she was able to bring herself into the "world of Gods" or how she can bring others there is yet to be explained

Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#132: May 27th 2017 at 10:21:49 AM

So our villains are an axe crazy school girl with reality warping powers and a revenge driven omnicidal maniac. Awesome.

edited 27th May '17 10:22:05 AM by Silentedge89

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#133: May 27th 2017 at 12:24:38 PM

It's probably bad that I was cheering on Magane this episode.

Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#134: May 27th 2017 at 12:49:33 PM

Its not that bad because Sota's an idiot.

Prime32 Since: Jan, 2001
#135: May 27th 2017 at 12:59:53 PM

So was it deliberate that Yōko Hikasa's character has an attack named after Iron Hand Götz, while airing alongside a show where her character is a blonde knight obsessed with someone based on Götz?

edited 27th May '17 1:00:36 PM by Prime32

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#136: May 27th 2017 at 1:51:10 PM

At least we know Sota's deal now - he's a walking bundle of PTSD because his friend committed suicide and (rightly or wrongly) he's pretty sure he was responsible. That at least explains why he's holding out on his friends - any explanation of his connection to Altair would, in his mind, end with '... and I think she wants to destroy the world because I killed her creator'.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#137: May 27th 2017 at 2:57:44 PM

Holy shit, things got really serious now. Souta is being an idiot hiding the truth, probably because he doesn't want to take responsibility, making him an easy target for Magano blackmail. Kinda surprised that Meteora didn't figure him out already.

Is it wrong that the first thing that I though when I saw Magano in that maid uniform was "Oh god, she probably killed someone to get it!"?

I'm really suprised that Mamika of all people recived most character development so far. Well, I now see why it's so.... poor girl, I actually started to like her, but I knew she was a gonner the moment she went to Altair.

I love this series, it's just so good.

Sota is in deep shit now. I'm still fairly confident that at Altair's end game Magane is going to usurp her. I get serious Gremlin/Sora from Kamen Rider Wizard vibes from her.

Eh, she strikes me more like the type of villain who causes a lot of trouble in the middle of the story, but gets eliminated before the end game. Kind of reminds me of Caster from Fate Zero.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138: May 27th 2017 at 3:01:23 PM

Is it wrong that the first thing that I though when I saw Magano in that maid uniform was "Oh god, she probably killed someone to get it!"?

I actually didn't think of that. My mind jumped assuming she actually like, applied and got the job just set up that little ambush.

Your explanation probably makes more sense.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#139: May 27th 2017 at 11:24:33 PM

Magane isn't mastermind material because she doesn't have it in her for delayed gratification. She does whatever she wants, whenever she wants. But it's precisely that unpredictability that makes her scary as a villain. You don't know if she's just going to tease you, or kill you.

That said, I still can't imagine her actually being the main villain of the show. Mostly because she loves this world. She'd never do anything to threaten it; it's her playground. While in a smaller scale story hunting down the serial killer would high-enough stakes, in this case they've already put the end of the world on the table, and Magane isn't going to end the world.

edited 27th May '17 11:25:07 PM by Clarste

Huthman Queen of Neith from Unknown, Antarctica Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Queen of Neith
#140: May 28th 2017 at 6:49:40 AM

Hey, I created a Fridge page for it,

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Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#141: May 28th 2017 at 8:23:12 AM

[up][up] She mentioned having some kind of plan to cause some kind of reversal back in ep 7 when she killed her creator. We still don't know the details of that. Altair really doesn't strike me as being the villain for the whole run.

googlebot Herald of Endless Research. from The misty Albion Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#142: May 29th 2017 at 8:07:16 AM

Wow. Last episode hit hard and in many places. I wouldn't write off Mamika just yet.

“You can’t be an important and life-changing presence for some people without also being a joke and embarrassment to others.” -Mark Manson.
fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#143: May 29th 2017 at 8:53:33 AM

[up] Yep. That last-minute Magical Splash Flare, then cut to episode title: I CHOSE this way of life. Mmmmm. I hope she lives.

[up][up] It could go either way, honestly. Which makes things a lot more intriguing.

Souta's a lot more tolerable now that it's clear how traumatic Setsuna's death was for him. Still not enjoyable to watch him "gloss over a lot of things", so thank the gods Magane is there to become his crazy psycho not-girlfriend.

Wonder how hard Mirokuji tossed his creator around. And Matsubara's like, it's okay to break everything as long as he can still work afterwards. Hahaha.

And now that it's been brought up in the show proper, I wonder if anyone will be encountering a fanfic version of them. There's still 14 more episodes to go so anything can happen!

Oh, and I share this imgur album of recap omake that they release on the show's website after every episode.

WoodyAlien3rd from Persimmon Land (Italy) Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: Omelette du fromage~
#144: May 30th 2017 at 6:12:53 AM

Hiroe said this is the Last Action Hero of anime, so I guess (after reading the WMG and all) this makes Magane the Benedict of the series: killed the creator/employer, and since in the real world bad guys can win, she's preparing to summon fictional villains -such as the Hound of Tindalos- to unleash chaos and carnage.

I'm looking forward to that, since after the show seemingly killed off Mamika, the only character that showed a minimum of personal growth and maturity, in my eyes Magane is the only thing that can redeem this messy snoozefest of a series.

"Effective Altruism" is just another bunch of horsesh*t.
Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#145: Jun 3rd 2017 at 9:50:40 AM

I never thought I'd hate a character more than Griffith but here we are. gj Magane now fucking die.

AlphaVII Mecha and Waifu, become one! from A part of the endless starry sky Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Mecha and Waifu, become one!
#146: Jun 3rd 2017 at 11:17:48 AM

This shark tooth girl has got to go >:(

Warrior to the very end! My tumblr, dood!
googlebot Herald of Endless Research. from The misty Albion Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Herald of Endless Research.
#147: Jun 3rd 2017 at 11:20:12 AM

Magane sure made it to the list of top villains there. Also, she has to have a secondary power. Being in the right place at the right time how many times in a row?

edited 3rd Jun '17 11:28:14 AM by googlebot

“You can’t be an important and life-changing presence for some people without also being a joke and embarrassment to others.” -Mark Manson.
Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#148: Jun 3rd 2017 at 11:34:25 AM

And no one believed me she was the real big bad of the show.

googlebot Herald of Endless Research. from The misty Albion Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Herald of Endless Research.
#149: Jun 3rd 2017 at 12:27:43 PM

[up]I still don't think she fits the role of a finall villain. Unless Magane goes through some character development, I only see a karmic death in her future.

“You can’t be an important and life-changing presence for some people without also being a joke and embarrassment to others.” -Mark Manson.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#150: Jun 3rd 2017 at 1:55:38 PM

I still don't believe that she's the final boss, and honestly I don't see how this episode would even remotely change anyone's mind about that. She's a Joker-type character causing chaos. We already knew that, and that's still all she is. At this point, her main purpose is to artificially prolong the conflict, because if all the characters were honest with each other than the series would be over almost immediately.


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