Thor: Ragnarok

The comics change enough about the myths as is and the movies aren't usually entirely accurate to the comics anyways. I'm not getting the big deal.

Jormungandr needs more love.

Heck, in the comics, Thor isn't even Frigga's biological son. He's actually the son of Gaea, the primordial mother goddess who transcends pantheons. That's one of the reasons Thor is stronger than the average Asgardian.

edited 28th Feb '18 11:47:54 PM by M84

He was conceived by Gaia, who took the form of Jord. I also kind of wish they could have put in Odin's other sons into the MCU series.

In the comics as well, they actually confirmed that Loki birthed Sleipnir. And that is only the time Loki has given birth, because if you go by Lokesanna he actually sometimes goes to Midgard and gets knocked up by mortal men.

edited 28th Feb '18 11:50:27 PM by firewriter

In the original myths Jörð was also a jötunn.

Oh, and Heimdall was also a son of Odin.

Yeah, the comics changed a lot from the myths.

Odin conquered Nine Realms and then pretended it all happened peacefully. He didn't atone for his mistakes; he tried to hide all of it.

Plus, the first movie plenty covered the point of "yeah the Frost Giants are jerks but they don't deserve genocide."

Which begs the question of why he even kept the mural depicting the conquest of the realms in the first place.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Karnilla_(Earth-616)

For the murderous older sister, they could have used Karnilla and Hela would have been roped into her schemes to get back at Asgard for all the injustices that were against her (plus could still be Loki's daughter). Karnilla could escape from her prison convince Hela to strike back at Asgard and Odin for what they did, then recruit her brothers.

Karnilla could still get the backstory of helping Odin conquer the other realms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Odin

Well, you are right about him being listed as a son of Odin, but he also has that nine mothers origin story as well.

edited 1st Mar '18 12:19:00 AM by firewriter

It's also a bit off that they gave Hela Fenris. It would have been closer to the comics and the myths to give her Garm instead.

edited 1st Mar '18 12:26:19 AM by M84

@M84

Yeah, that's supposed to be her brother not pet. Best of all it was genderfluid. Funny enough in mythology, Garm sometimes was depicted as having three heads like Cerberus.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Garm_(Earth-616)

edited 1st Mar '18 12:31:38 AM by firewriter

> Which begs the question of why he even kept the mural depicting the conquest of the realms in the first place.

Some part of Odin felt a sort of pride at his accomplishments,so instead of removing them he had them covered over

Or,removing them would bring attention to them,so were ignored

It’s also symbolic. Oden didn’t destroy his legacy of bloodshed or atone for it, he covered it up and pretended it never happened.

I am still surprised at this point they haven't brought in the Enchantress.

Comic book boys love the Enchantress but she is kind of inherently sexist, isn't she?

I don't think so. If they could put Lorelei in the Shield series, then I think they can find a way to put in Amora.

The next film appears to adapt Enchantress, but it’s actually Casiolena, who continues to be very angry at being mistaken for Enchantress.

edited 1st Mar '18 9:01:09 AM by Tuckerscreator

I've seen complaints about how Lorelei was handled in SHIELD so maybe not the best example.

Lorelei kinda raped a bunch of guys and they just kinda didn't put much into pointing that out...

I still think they could find someway to work in her. I am kind of sad that her right hand man now serves Hela.

Also randomly murdered a woman for objecting to raping her husband.

Enchantress is awesome as the Girly Girl to Sif's Tomboy but there's not much Sif either due to Blindspot.

edited 1st Mar '18 9:09:49 AM by CharlesPhipps

Eh, the Lorelei episode is widely considered one of the worst if not THE worst Ao S episode, so they might not want to follow suit there. And yes, it is the worst. It is the one Ao S episode which is sexist and full of unfortunate implications.

The only good thing about that episode was Ward using it as an excuse to try to kill May.

How about making Amora be not a rapist like her sister and she actually has morals in comparison with her.

That was a thing in the Surt War arc.

Amora found Lorelei and said hey big existence threatening thing, all hands on deck.

And Lorelei said nah. I'm busy with my big seduce Thor plan. You let me know how all this plays out.

So Amora made Lorelei fall in love with Loki.

The moral of the story is that even an Amora behaving with the barest amount of morals is still kind of a terrible person.

Yeah, it's why she's a villainess.