Friendship is Magic, YMMV reorganization and cleanup

YMMV.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic has became an index for several YMMV subpages, leaving only four pages for stray entries:

• Storyline and Aesop Reactions and Interpretations (all examples placed in the sandbox, due to be cut)
• Character Reactions and Interpretations (All examples placed on the sandbox, due to be cut)
• Fandom Reactions (all examples placed in the sandbox, due to be cut)
• Other (used as the basis for the sandbox, therefore all examples are there by default. due to be cut)

The problem is that these four pages are misusing the namespaces so the idea is to consolidate these examples and reorganize them by letter like the main page.

ATT Link that led to this

I started with making a sandbox page: Sandbox.MLPFIM Other YMMV and moving the entries on the "other" page there as a basis for the reorganization.

edited 6th Aug '17 12:33:05 PM by MorningStar1337

I'm the one responsible for splitting the page up like that in the first place (originally by folders). Now that I think about it, it probably wasn't the best idea, but it was too late to reverse that decision once I went through with it.

Yes, I agree that they should be by letter instead of by "category."

Took a crack at the FandomReactions.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic page. I cut the examples that I moved just to keep track of everything. Some of the tropes are on multiple pages, so I think that's really the only way to get through it.

Should the Other.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic page be cut considering that all of its tropes are already on the sandbox page? It only has 49 inbounds, which isn't even a blip compared to other MLP pages.

Yeah i say it should if all of the examples are unable to be fit there fit there,

~Morning Star 1337 and ~Water Blap, is it imperative that the subpages be preserved in any form? Because in my mind, simply merging all the content back into the main YMMV page is better.

I don't know (Been a while since I've made this thread and the related ATT thread). The only possible reasons I can think of would be for data limitations (as in all the entries might not fit on a single page, in fact I think I tried to ask about page data limitations around that point) or organizational purposes (and I forgot if that's even Kosher in the first place, from what I recall, the ATT was inspired by the namespace use). I would think not considering the plan is to alphabetize each entry to be more consistent with other YMMV pages.

On a side note, I want to know if the The Problem with Licensed Games should go? The Game being referred to does have its own page and YMMV page.

edited 3rd Aug '17 7:10:15 AM by MorningStar1337

Yeah, I think it's best to merge them all into the main YMMV/ page, and if the page is too long, we should split the pages but keep them in the YMMV/ namespace, imo.

Also, I just sent Other.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic to the Cut List because I forgot to do that before even though I asked a few comments up.

EDIT: All of the content on FandomReactions.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic has now been moved to the sandbox, so I'm putting it on the Cut List. That said, there are now examples of So Bad, It's Good and So Okay, It's Average. Are though necessarily contradictory and so should one of them be cut?

edited 3rd Aug '17 7:35:52 AM by WaterBlap

That reminds me, if there a way to quantify how many wicks get migrated to my sandbox page? I want to ensure that that all the wicks are copied to the sandbox page before cutting them.

edited 3rd Aug '17 7:33:00 AM by MorningStar1337

We'll need to migrate the wicks to the main YMMV/ page anyway, so I think we should just move them there rather than to the sandbox. Plus, we can still access the wick list after the page has been cut.

Or did you mean their inbounds? I'm only seeing one wick on each of the pages I just sent to the Cut List.

edited 3rd Aug '17 7:39:06 AM by WaterBlap

Good point, but I do remember my reasoning for making the sandbox page is to make sure all the wicks fit into one page without breaking wiki code first.

edited 3rd Aug '17 7:45:04 AM by MorningStar1337

I don't think wicks can get "too long." The content on the page will probably give us a "too-long page warning," but there's so much natter, redundancies, and other crap that we can probably cut the page down and then split it. But first I think we need to get it on one page.

Fair enough, I'll see what I can do with Storyline interpretations later tonight

Update: I took an early crack at it and to my surprise, I managed to get all the examples from that page in the sandbox page. I can safely say that StorylineAndAesopReactionsAndInterpretations.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic can be cut and added it to the cutlist.

edited 3rd Aug '17 12:36:40 PM by MorningStar1337

I moved the CharacterReactionsAndInterpretations.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic tropes to the sandbox page.

EDIT: Also, would "cleanup" cover removing blatant overreactions from Awesome Moments, Heartwarming Moments, Tear Jerker, and Nightmare Fuel? It seems like Awesome Moments contains any time a character accomplishes anything, Heartwarming Moments is a list of every time someone does something cute or nice, and any time something slightly unpleasant happens, it gets put in Nightmare Fuel and/or Tear Jerker.

edited 5th Aug '17 2:07:15 PM by Zuxtron

I put CharacterReactionsAndInterpretations.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic on the Cut List.

The Fandom Reactions/ page was not cut but made a redirect, even though its inbounds are only 4.04% of the inbounds of the YMMV/ page and would get caught by the auto-disambig anyway.

Since Awesome Moments, Heartwarming Moments, Tear Jerker, and Nightmare Fuel have their own pages, any of those entries that are in the sandbox ought to be moved to those pages or deleted, I think. That said, I'm not finding any of those? There are examples for Awesome Ego, etc., but I'm not sure if those are technically "Awesome Moments" etc.

Okay I'll add the compiled list to the main YMMV page but before I do, I want to know if folders are necessary first?

edited 6th Aug '17 12:34:21 PM by MorningStar1337

Should we continue to fix the page for redundancies and natter and such before moving it to YMMV/?

Also, I don't think folders are necessary.

edited 6th Aug '17 12:35:06 PM by WaterBlap

I dunno. On the one hand all 4 subpages are now on the cutlist, (and one of them was made a redirect), so cutting them without the transplant would leave either circular redirects or red links.

On the other hand, doing the transplant now might bloat the page a bit so it might be prudent to at least add folders and remove redundant trope entries first.

I meant more along the lines of going on these subpages and clearing the overreactions from them, but I guess that would fall under a different project.

Okay at least one of the subpages was cut. Should we bring up a crowner for what to do with the examples on the sandbox page (specifically is we should work on it a bit before transplanting it to the YMMV page)?

That is not a crowner question.

I cleaned up the Counterpart Comparison examples a bit. I'm noticing some Zero Context Examples (also in Counterpart Comparison), and I think we could at the very least delete all of those. Crazy Awesome, for example, could probably be completely cut as it currently is. Creepy Awesome could, too.

There was recently a purge of negative examples. Do we want to talk about which ones to restore? Or should we just work on restoring all of them (serious question).

Also, I think I'm going to add the subpages to the sandbox, by linking them to the subpages. Just to get them in the same list like they're supposed to be...

Regarding the removed examples. For now I lean towards discussing them and removing/fixing the ZC Es (if any,) at least. But I want to get a second opinion on this.

edited 1st Nov '17 6:47:44 PM by MorningStar1337

Is this reorganisation still active? The YMMV page still says "pending reorganisation", but this thread seems very quiet now.

Well, it's 2019. What are we going to do with this page?

Edited by SantosLHalper on Jan 10th 2019 at 10:45:58 AM