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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#426: Aug 31st 2017 at 7:10:42 AM

I use the word pity to describe how I feel about Light Yagami. I've only read the manga but we have his reactions to his first using the DN, the Amnesica/Yotsuba Arc and also a little WOG on who he was as a person. People who say he was always a sociopath or whatever are missing the point, IMO. But that being said, Light is still a bad person but it's perfectly possible to feel pity for a bad person. He was a teenager who fell prey to a supernatural power and his own flaws. That doesn't make him less culpable but it does make me pity him.

Misa is the most sympathetic main character in DN as far as I'm concerned. In a way, Mia being more capable and provocative is negative. Sure it gives that character more agency as opposed to being a plaything but like somebody noted earlier, it almost validates a lot of shitty opinions on Misa. That she was just some "dumb bitch" who was to blame for everything.

edited 31st Aug '17 7:14:04 AM by Nikkolas

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#427: Aug 31st 2017 at 10:32:00 AM

I know that this is a few months late, but here is a parody alternate trailer about the adventures of Light Turner. It seems that a lot was changed before the final product was made.

kaalban Schrodinger's Human from everywhere and nowhere Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#428: Aug 31st 2017 at 6:23:36 PM

[up] This was inevitable. grin

And more I think about it, the name choice Light Turner is ridiculous. I'm sure there were other surnames they could have chosen. Does he turn the light on? Oh, wait...

edited 31st Aug '17 6:24:00 PM by kaalban

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#429: Aug 31st 2017 at 6:56:35 PM

Shots fired:

     

edited 31st Aug '17 7:02:15 PM by Soble

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#430: Aug 31st 2017 at 7:14:16 PM

Ah damn I wanted to post the parody.

Demetrios Lucky Seven from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#431: Aug 31st 2017 at 7:29:26 PM

That picture on the right definitely looks cheesy. Light just dramatically shouts now and then; he's not a screamer. tongue

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#432: Sep 1st 2017 at 12:09:38 AM

I loved Misa but the video's statement that Misa is beloved and a great heroine of the 200s is....questionable, at best.

BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#433: Sep 1st 2017 at 12:25:28 AM

I might check out the Netflix movie this month, but reading this thread makes me think that not nearly enough people have seen the 2015 series.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#434: Sep 1st 2017 at 3:08:09 AM

[up] ×5 Goddammit, I had sworn I'd never watch a video from that crappy channel again. Though it seems they hired a human being to read the text, that's an improvement… But yeah, calling Misa "beloved" is an overstatement.

The gore though… eww… =.=

kaalban Schrodinger's Human from everywhere and nowhere Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#435: Sep 1st 2017 at 7:05:57 AM

[up][up] Yeah, Death Note Drama was also... controversial to say the least. ESPECIALLY with Mello and Near (Mello is Near's split personality in that drama. Yeah, you've heard that right)

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RedRob Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#436: Sep 1st 2017 at 7:09:58 AM

[up]Sounds more interesting than the movie to me.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#437: Sep 1st 2017 at 7:14:12 AM

I never watched the entire 2015 drama, only the first episode. It's on my to-do list.

I don't know if Misa's a "beloved heroine" but I'm pretty confident she's a frequent cosplay magnet.

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kaalban Schrodinger's Human from everywhere and nowhere Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#438: Sep 1st 2017 at 7:23:32 AM

From what I've seen, Drama Light turns out to be pretty great (especially at the end)

And... the more I think about this movie's situation, the more I compared it to Korean Death Note Musical.

edited 1st Sep '17 7:27:37 AM by kaalban

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RedRob Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#439: Sep 1st 2017 at 3:27:03 PM

Well, started watching the Death Note Drama. It's eerie how it shares some of the same changes the film did, but I would watch the drama over the film any day. I think my favorite part is how animated Ryuk is. His wacky gestures are really entertaining.

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Ancient_Castle Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#440: Sep 1st 2017 at 9:50:06 PM

Saw the movie yesterday. As an adaptation it's disastrous, completely losing everything that made the sourse material interesting/popular. But as a standalone piece it's alright. Average, but not horrible. The only thing I consider really bad is the choice of songs: the ferris wheel scene was killed by the soundtrack, and not in a good way.

Also, I agree that the 2015 TV series is underappreciated.

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Matues Since: Sep, 2011
#441: Sep 2nd 2017 at 1:55:08 AM

It was fun to watch with my roommate. We got some laughs.

I liked the characterization of Mia better than Misa, as she's a much more compelling character this way. It also helps that her actress did a much better job of seeming clever and together than Light's actor, in my own opinion.

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#442: Sep 2nd 2017 at 4:46:19 AM

So, taken as it's own thing (meaning that "L/Light/whomever is OOC" and related things aren't relevant arguments), is the movie interesting?

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#443: Sep 2nd 2017 at 9:01:34 AM

[up] Yes. I don't know anything about the source material aside from hearing the odd thing now and then.

Assassin-sensei Since: Jun, 2014
#444: Sep 2nd 2017 at 9:44:16 AM

Y'know, the maturity level of this movie seems like it's skewing younger than the original anime/manga, yet it has a higher age rating in every country due to the over-the-top gore and gratuitous swearing ("I called you a stupid fuck, you stupid fuck"). Something to think about.

Somehow my twelve-year-old sister knew that this movie was bad and she's not familiar with the franchise at all. Someone semi-relevant/mainstream on Twitter probably mentioned it or something.

edited 2nd Sep '17 9:44:36 AM by Assassin-sensei

Demetrios Lucky Seven from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#445: Sep 2nd 2017 at 9:45:32 AM

"I called you a stupid fuck, you stupid fuck"

Man, even the Step Brothers would call that a Lame Comeback. XD

edited 2nd Sep '17 9:46:09 AM by Demetrios

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#446: Sep 2nd 2017 at 9:47:58 AM

[up][up] That's one of the few things about it that can adequately be explained by "It's being made in America."

It's the fundamental paradox of American media that most of our mature-rated films, video games, etc. are typically marketed to the 12-14 year old demographic.

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#447: Sep 2nd 2017 at 11:02:00 AM

So, taken as it's own thing (meaning that "L/Light/whomever is OOC" and related things aren't relevant arguments), is the movie interesting?

No not really. It's just okay.

Sabertooth1000000000 Sabertooth from Land of the Livid Dead Since: Jul, 2010
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#448: Sep 2nd 2017 at 4:43:40 PM

The premise of Death Note is just so damn fascinating and full of potential, I truly don't think anything has quite lived up to it. The anime is the best interpretation of the concept, but I think there's more there.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#449: Sep 4th 2017 at 3:04:58 PM

A review I found elsewhere

The part that really stuck out to me was:

" The real problem with Light's character, is that he lacks agency, a real sin for the lead. Rather than driving the plot, other characters drive the plot, and he just follows with occasional objections. Light Copyright © Netflix

Other characters seem to exist to make Light look better, such as Mia, one of the actual driving forces of this film. Although she makes a number of decisions that influence the events of the plot, we never quite understand why she is the way she is, or what is going through her mind."

The idea of Light as lacking agency is baffling. Death Note is supposed to be Light's story from start to finish. He is the one who started the game and played it until he lost.

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#450: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:34:30 PM

Makes sense to me. From the start, I was saying this looked too sympathetic to Light's POV. What's one way to make Light more sympathetic and likable? Relegate him to hapless, well-meaning guy who's in over his head.

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edited 4th Sep '17 4:35:07 PM by TobiasDrake

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