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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#51: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:43:39 PM

[up]That's how DR endgames tend to work. On paper, the "despair cult led by a psycho teenager caused the apocalypse outside" and "everything was part of an anti-despair VR game" sound really dumb, but the sheer raw cheesy fun of the last trial makes it work.

If I could make one edit to the plot of V3 though, it'd be that S01-S52 of the Dangaronpa show don't involve anyone actually dying, but then Shirogane decided to go a bit overboard for S53.

edited 13th Jan '17 10:08:09 PM by LinkToTheFuture

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#52: Jan 14th 2017 at 4:40:31 AM

Eh I still don't like how this sounds.

Seriously 53 seasons, now that's awful at least just for the implications that the world gets its kicks from watching real teens brutally murder each other. I mean that proves V3 is in its own universe right cause I can't imagine this mixing with D1 & D2. I also dislike how apparently the kids talents & memories are all fake. Damn man that's like the main draw of this series, the unique lovable cast of insane people cause that's just fucking lame.

I mean I'll stay the game but damn if I'm not nervous about this shit. sad

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#53: Jan 14th 2017 at 6:54:17 AM

A society that depraved should have collapsed on itself long ago.

Can you imagine a world of Junkos being functional for long?

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#54: Jan 14th 2017 at 6:56:19 AM

[up][up]Well, just because the memories are fake doesn't mean that our cast is fake. Wouldn't fake imply that they're just acting? No, the characters, at least in terms of personality, are real, even if their memories aren't.

edited 14th Jan '17 6:57:48 AM by astrokitty

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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#55: Jan 14th 2017 at 8:44:21 AM

[up][up]I don't know if the game denies it, but my headcanon is that Until Shirogane took over, the game was actually non-lethal, but then Shirogane decided to spice things up a little to live her own little Junko fantasy in the same way that Shuichi is essentially indulging his own Naegi fantasy by being in the game.

I've already seen plenty of fan-rage about the ending. It kind of makes me worried how the game will be remembered going forward, because I think this is a very interesting entry in the series.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#56: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:04:20 AM

From what I understand, it's a commentary on those fans who only like the series to see high school students get killed in gruesome ways. That is admittedly something that annoys me so I'm going to have to agree with them on that.

edited 14th Jan '17 9:04:56 AM by LordVatek

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#57: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:27:09 AM

If that bothers them so much maybe they shouldn't have made a game about high school students killing each other in gruesome ways in the first place.

edited 14th Jan '17 9:27:36 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#58: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:33:40 AM

From what I've seen around, there seems to be some misunderstanding on what the details of the backstory are. Just for clarfication, I'm 99% sure that the earlier DR games were not part of the reality TV series.

edited 14th Jan '17 9:47:49 AM by LinkToTheFuture

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#59: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:43:11 AM

[up]Yes, I think you're right. The three games plus anime were so popular that people decided they wanted to do their own killing game so they made it a reality show.

[up][up]True, but the series is far more than that and to only like it because of the killing kind of goes against the point.

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#60: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:50:42 AM

When I watched the intro sequence, I thought "why are they showing a montage of the first games/anime?" and then we got to the end and I was like "godamnit, that's why".

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#61: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:57:17 AM

Is there anything non-spoilery that can be said about the game?

Is it fun, at least?

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#62: Jan 14th 2017 at 1:55:33 PM

I've seen some people say that Kodaka may be trying to Torch the Franchise and Run, which I think is bullshit. The game pulling a Take That, Audience! and becoming a meta-commentary on the franchise is just another direction for the franchise to go.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#63: Jan 14th 2017 at 1:58:28 PM

That doesn't mean its a good change though. I mean opinions will undoutably be divided but just cause its different doesn't mean its automatically gonna be good. Personally I really don't lilke what I'm hearing for this one.

edited 14th Jan '17 1:59:33 PM by slimcoder

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#64: Jan 14th 2017 at 2:01:35 PM

He's not torching the franchise I don't think. The game ends on a massive sequel hook and apparently he tweeted something like "Fiction never dies."

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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#65: Jan 14th 2017 at 2:16:39 PM

Trial 6 is going to be...fun...for NISA to translate...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#66: Jan 15th 2017 at 2:51:32 AM

Isn't that kinda hypocritical or going against the point that you were trying to make?

I mean you spend the last trial basically criticizing your fanbase or whatever specific fans your upset with about wanting more killing games despite that being one of the most integral parts of your series revolving around death (seriously death is in every installment whether its a main or spin-off) to the point you go insane on your characters & story just to get that point across, even having a character symbolically blow-up the franchise. Then you end it with an apparent sequel hook & hinting that more games or whatever are coming despite the point you were trying to make.

Seriously isn't that kinda fucked up? Couldn't they just not make the game? This is why I don't like it when someone does a Take That, Audience. It can be really hit & miss, especially if its a big one done. That's ignoring what it does to the series setting & themes. sad

edited 15th Jan '17 3:10:29 AM by slimcoder

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#67: Jan 15th 2017 at 6:06:29 AM

You are the one supplying the product in the first place, so if anything it should be Self-Deprecation rather than Take That, Audience!. Otherwise it comes off as hypocritical.

'How do you dare liking these things I keep doing and doing, that makes you a bad person, but not me, I still have the higher moral ground to criticize you'.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#68: Jan 15th 2017 at 1:09:08 PM

My personal take on the ending is this: I'm waiting for the translation so I can accurately judge the details. To me, it hinges on whether it's a retcon or not. If yes, then it's going to leave a bad aftertaste, if no, then I think it's actually pretty great. It might be a bit too meta for its own good, but I applaud the (real) Team Danganronpa for having the balls to do it. It makes me wonder where the franchise would go after this. I think it makes for an interesting plot it its own right and I want to see some more DR because I love me some Danganronpa, but I think this would be an interesting sendoff to the franchise if it were. (It won't make everyone happy though, that's for sure.)

I've heard some interesting observations that the ending's reception as it is might be a Germans Love David Hasselhoff situation, which I find very curious.

edited 15th Jan '17 1:13:25 PM by LinkToTheFuture

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#69: Jan 15th 2017 at 2:51:18 PM

I'm confused. Does the ending imply that the entire Danganronpa series were game shows or that the events of Danganronpa 1-3 were real and every killing game that happened after that were game shows?

edited 15th Jan '17 2:51:43 PM by magictoaster

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#70: Jan 15th 2017 at 2:54:32 PM

[up]I'm not 100% sure, but I think what it is is that In this universe, DR 1-3 were popular works of fiction like they are in our world, until someone taking things a little bit too seriously thought it would be jolly good fun to make a game show based on it.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#71: Jan 15th 2017 at 2:56:01 PM

From what I understand, think of the V3 universe as the real world and the three games and anime are products there the same as they are here with Shirogane cosplaying as characters from them the same way people do here. The reality show stems from people thinking the Killing Games were fun and wanting to participate in them in real life so Team Danganronpa obliges and starts the reality show angle.

[nja]

edited 15th Jan '17 2:56:19 PM by LordVatek

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#72: Jan 15th 2017 at 3:00:26 PM

Apparently "53" can be alternatively read as "trash" in Japanese, which is part of the reason why it's gotten so much ire over there. That is kind of a dick move on Kodaka/Spike Chunsoft's end.

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#74: Jan 15th 2017 at 3:06:03 PM

So...yeah.

Is the game good?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#75: Jan 15th 2017 at 3:08:07 PM

Yeah the implications aren't exactly pleasant. Especially that 53 means trash thing cause wow that's a pretty mean thing to do. I mean I get calling out the particularly overzealous fans who are only in it for the blood & gore but I honestly think they went too far here & ended appearing like there blaming everyone like were all the problem.

Seriously its awful to think that someone would make a real life death-game just cause they like Dangan & that so many people would just go along with it. Its a rather depressing thought really.

[up] Gameplay wise, its apparently really great & the core school cast are as always fun & charming. The problem lies within the main story.

edited 15th Jan '17 3:09:10 PM by slimcoder

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