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TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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Nov 7th 2018 at 2:53:57 PM

The Morning Star means a few different things in different games. In some, it's an upgraded Vampire Killer. In others, it's a power-up you use to upgrade Vampire Killer. Still, in others, it's a spiked mace with no whip attached to it.

Still, the idea is clear enough and the show's usage of it is a bit surprising, but not altogether inappropriate for its role in the games.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 7th 2018 at 3:55:08 AM

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Nov 7th 2018 at 3:00:19 PM

Does it matter who is related to whom and how in the Game? They can change this to whatever fits the story best for the show.

TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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Nov 7th 2018 at 3:04:32 PM

I actually would be surprised if the show moves on to future Belmonts at all. They spent so much time establishing Trevor and Sypha, after all. One would think the writing team would want to stick with the characters they've developed and gotten the audience invested in rather than throwing them all out between seasons and declaring, "NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!"

You can get away with that in the games because the Belmonts are just hollow vessels for the player with very little real characterization or agency within the plot. But a show needs to retain audience interest from season to season, and characters that the audience is invested in are the key to doing that.

I think Trevor and Sypha are here for the long haul.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 7th 2018 at 4:05:16 AM

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Nov 7th 2018 at 3:14:46 PM

Yeah, I definitely see the series focusing on Trevor for the foreseeable future. People talking around about them adapting other installments are definitely jumping the gun. Still, it's fun to speculate.

If they do move onto another Belmont, which I'm sure they will eventually if the series goes on long enough, I expect it to be a show-original one.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Nov 7th 2018 at 6:15:05 AM

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TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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Nov 7th 2018 at 3:21:25 PM

There's also the fact that unless they actually do intend to revive Dracula over and over, there's basically no reason to ever move on to future generations in the first place. The different Belmonts were basically the games' rationale for the Bag of Spilling. A new Belmont must start at level 1 and work his way up to defeating Dracula.

Then the next Belmont starts at level 1 and works his way up to defeating Dracula.

Then the next Belmont, yadda yadda. Same reason the Zelda games use a different Link every time.

But if we're nixing the revivals, there's not any reason to ever stop focusing on Trevor and Sypha. Narratively speaking, the only conflict from the games that couldn't conceivably be adapted as a foe for them to fight instead of Whoever Belmont is "One hundred years later, Dracula returns."

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Nov 7th 2018 at 3:38:02 PM

[up]I dunno, worked for Jo Jo. Besides, it would be boring to just stay in this one time period unless Season 3 is the last season, Curse of Darkness, thatís it, Game Over Yeaahhhh...

I mean if S3 is it then it makes perfect sense and fits with this being an expansion of a film trilogy. Then the others donít matter.

Edited by Beatman1 on Nov 7th 2018 at 6:45:09 AM

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Nov 7th 2018 at 3:48:10 PM

You can easily get Bag of Spilling needs by having Villains Level Drain the Heroes. Even the weapons. Especially the weapons.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Nov 7th 2018 at 3:48:42 AM

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Nov 7th 2018 at 3:51:30 PM

Yep, Alucard got Bag of Spilling'd right at the beginning of SotN, and they gave him gear he'd never even had before to do it. tongue

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Nov 7th 2018 at 3:54:09 PM

That would just be contrived. If the show is going that long go the Generational Saga route.

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Nov 7th 2018 at 4:09:56 PM

Later generations can focus less on Belmont-vs-Dracula and more on the drama of the Belmonts and their surrounding cast, or other servants of Dracula.

TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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Nov 7th 2018 at 9:03:04 PM

Maybe? But if there aren't going to be recurring resurrections of Dracula, there don't really need to be later generations. The present generation can fight other servants of Dracula.

Take Dracula out of the equation and there's no reason to ever skip around between centuries.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 7th 2018 at 10:03:43 AM

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Nov 7th 2018 at 10:15:15 PM

Just make it like Jo Jo's and do a different antagonist for each season then.

Also I believe it's stated in several profiles that Dracula and the Belmonts get stronger with each resurrection and generation respectively, which definitely checks out with all the crazy shit they can do in games set later in the timeline like Demonic Meggido and Item Crash's, and Richter and Julius being the Worlds Strongest Warrior in their respective timelines and such, so it was never really a case of Bag of Spilling.

Edited by Rynnec on Nov 7th 2018 at 12:15:49 PM

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Nov 7th 2018 at 10:19:35 PM

I recall the director saying he would like to keep this going as long as he possibly can & adapt a lot of games so future generations are pretty much on the table.

They'll prolly do it Jojo style. I assume season 3 will be the final season focusing on Tervor's generation because they gotta resolve the subplots with Carmilla, Hector, & Isaac, & after that we'll move on to the future.

Nov 7th 2018 at 11:13:08 PM

An interview with Adi Shankar. He discusses the show's morality and what was wrong and right with the games.

TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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Nov 8th 2018 at 5:38:05 AM

That was surprisingly uninformative. Basically explaining the concept of adaptations, TV seasons, and that video games kinda suck because they're always about graphics but a TV show can be about not-graphics.

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Nov 8th 2018 at 7:28:54 AM

Look You don't do a Castlevania animated adaption and NOT do the one scene EVERYBODY and their mother knows

That said, If we're doing a Curse of Darkness scenario with Hector We'll get plenty more with Trevor and Sypha 'maybe Grant too'

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TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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Nov 8th 2018 at 7:31:20 AM

Which scene? Dracula's "What is a man?" speech?

Unless we're getting Drac's revivals, that ship's sailed.

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Nov 8th 2018 at 7:34:19 AM

Its Castlevania

The fucking entire series Revolves around Drac's revival

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Nov 8th 2018 at 7:37:42 AM

Its Castlevania

The fucking entire series Revolves around Drac's revival

Yeah but the entire series also revolves around Drac having no personality beyond Generic Doomsday Villain.

I don't see how you bring Drac back without shitting over his character development of last season, especially when he essentially committed suicide.

TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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Nov 8th 2018 at 7:38:47 AM

Its Castlevania

The fucking entire series Revolves around Drac's revival

See, that's what I've been saying. But the general atmosphere seems to be that Dracula should never be revived because it would ruin his death scene.

Which. Is not. How you do. Castlevania. Dracula's pretty much the closest thing the series has to a main character.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 8th 2018 at 8:39:57 AM

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Nov 8th 2018 at 7:49:11 AM

Thereís plenty of villains that can use Dracula as a weapon. Carmilla is implied as one, Death, Shaft, Elizabeth Bathory, etc. The drama can be outside Dracula for certain parts.

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Nov 8th 2018 at 7:50:44 AM

Except here is the problem,

going his death scene was so good Yes, cause it underscores his Humanity and why Drac is a Tragic figure to an extent 'He's still a fucking asshole for what he did to Leon'

Its Terrible from the aspect of, You're Villain wasn't beaten, He gave up and committed Suicide by Hero

You're assuming Character development has to be Positive

IE Drac is sympathetic due to his losses

Drac being revive over and over where he steadily loses that humanity factor to the point when him and Alucard face each other for the Last time in a SOTN based season and Alucard reveals Lisa's dying wish for it to completely bounce off Drac's person cause at that point He is Dracula Demon King of Beasts little more then a Phantom urged on by his undying hatred.

Wouldn't ruin his death scene... It make it that much sadder cause it be a figurative death scene.

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Nov 8th 2018 at 7:58:58 AM

especially when he essentially committed suicide.

Hey, no one said Dracula himself wanted to be resurrected.

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Nov 8th 2018 at 7:59:44 AM

He does complain about it a few times

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