The Mandarin plot twist had Unfortunate Implications for me, though mostly because it sounds like something a 9/11-Conspiracy Theorist would come up with. It even seems to nod to this by mentioning Bin Laden by name.
Leviticus 19:34They should of just made Mandarin a Darth Vader Clone like he was in Armored Adventures and the Disk Wars anime.
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I think one reason "thug" villains aren't as popular may be because they hit too close to home.
The charismatic "cool" supervillain isn't really seen in real life that often, if at all. We're far more likely to encounter petulant and whiny assholes with way too much power.
edited 21st Jan '18 5:36:23 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedI mean thug as being needlessly violent and Agressive, the Sith code is based on being as Agressive as possible, just that their individual members channel that aggression in different ways.
The Sith code is a cancer
Watch me destroying my countrySince Batman got mentioned in this thread, and because of something I read in another thread, I was reminded of another problematic trope: Insane Equals Violent.
How much do you think the rather insufficient mental healthcare of the USA is due to this trope being prevalent in fiction? It does seem to perpetuate the idea that people with mental health issues are violent criminals who are beyond saving.
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When I think of thugs I don't really think of low key, they can be but the term itself just means someone who's aggressive and violent (with the implication of lacking sophistication or finesse).
edited 21st Jan '18 6:09:00 PM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangSaid for Masayuki Doi for why SMT don't have many female characters
This is officially the dumbest thing that I have read from him, like, females have a bad rate of survival but teenage nerds don't?
All SMT protagonists survive only because they had the Demon Summoning program in some device, or because they become the host for a demonic Parasite. How this affect the gender rate makes no sense.
I mean, Doi is not sexist and later he admit that the reason why he didn't add a female MC was because the older staff didn't want to change too much in SMT IV, which was a homage to the first two games in SNES, he wanted design a female MC but ultimately the rest of the staff said no, he would like one.
I guess that's why Flynn and Nanashi, the protagonists designed for Doi are so androgynous.
Seriously, what's up with a entire company don't wanting to add a female main character from a franchise with few dialogue and almost zero focus into personal relationships? Is just weird.
Even people that believe that they're subversive can fail into bigotry, right?
I think that, when a game had a Player Character that is mean to be a avatar of the player, a Female version should be a must.
Right?
edited 21st Jan '18 7:31:20 PM by KazuyaProta
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yeah, it was my faulty english, low key was the only thing it comes to my mind but is pretty much low level violence.
Is the main diferent between nazis and neo nazis: the former have uniform, complex belives build on violence while Many neo nazis just want to punch things.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Nazis were just thugs with good clothes, their very ideology sounded like something from thug obsessed with gang fights in control of a country and a Anime villain.
I mean, State created with the intention of destroying other states. Hitler hated the idea of states.
Hitler didn't view The Jews as a force corrupting civilization, he saw them as the builders of civilization.
And Hitler had a Howard-esque view of how Civilization was a mistake and dreams of a glorious vital past of manly badasses. Jews were corrupting humanity because they created civilization.
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This is probably too sensitive for Chinese censors, but the KMT man got me thinking.
The Mandarin could turn out to be a former member of the infamous Taiwan Garrison Command
. A fierce anti-communist, he has swung to the far right and wants to revive the Blueshirts
through the Ten Rings. He revels in the fear and "order" brought on the "ungrateful" Taiwanese in the 2/28 incident, happily recounting the days where he drove through the countryside as his bodyguards gunned down every Taiwanese in sight For the Evulz.
Funnily enough, he has disdain for both Chiang Kai-shek and Chiang Ching-kuo - the former for losing the mainland to godless Marxism and "throwing himself into the laps of foreigners for military aid", the latter for ending martial law which "plunged Taiwan into anarchy". He thinks Sun Yat-sen is a traitor for cooperating with the Comintern.
Instead, he cites often from the Book of Lord Shang. Example: a mook fails to capture Tony Stark. The Mandarin brings in the guy's entire family and condemns all to death, before his guards drag them off.
He plans to retake the mainland and subject all non Han Chinese to authoritarian rule. His methods of suppressing dissent will be eerily similar to those used by the Argentine military junta in the 1970s-80s. All those who oppose him will be branded "Communist bandit spies" and sent off to be tortured and killed. His plans for the Uyghurs and Tibetans will be nothing short of genocide.
As his plans get more grandiose, he shifts from wanting to be a dictator to crowning himself emperor, wishing to conquer China's other Asian neighbors plus Russia (plus annexing India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Mongolia) and subject them all to his rule as divine emperor of China, before going to war with the decadent West.
Bonus points if he rails about the Japanese and their "Greater Co-Prosperity sphere", but the irony of his current grand vision for China's future is lost on him.
TL;DR: The Mandarin could be Chinese nationalism taken to extremes, although political backstory will never pass Chinese censors.
edited 21st Jan '18 8:49:55 PM by TheWildWestPyro
True, although it'll never get past the censors.
Honestly, wanting to revive the Chinese monarchy is a very villainous trope in many Chinese works nowadays.
The far-right stance of the Mandarin is another poke at the alt-right, and some of the more annoying Asian nationalism I've seen online.
Also, outside of the mainland, the history of KMT-run China doesn't get much media coverage. So a KMT-aligned Mandarin would be fun, but I doubt that Marvel can even try without China outright saying no.
edited 21st Jan '18 8:48:34 PM by TheWildWestPyro
I'm wary of it offending the KMT, as it's certain that some hardline DPP supporters will use it as ammunition in the never-ending two-party mudslinging.
Plus, while the KMT made the mistake of being horrendously cruel to to the locals in their first few years on the island (1945 onwards), they eventually realized that securing Formosan loyalty was a good idea. Several years of good governance, relative stability and economic reform followed, although the military police always lurked in the background, ready to arrest, interrogate and imprison dissidents for life/execute "bandits".
On the other hand, the Mandarin swinging from wanting to be a fascist dictator into becoming Emperor of China might alleviate some of this, as his motives go from authoritarian to imperialistic. The KMT were fiercely anti-imperialist and anti-colonialist, with Chiang pleading with the Soviets to hand Puyi over so he could have the former emperor shot.
edited 21st Jan '18 9:25:20 PM by TheWildWestPyro
I think a more workable Mandarin would be for him to be some kind of Chinese Vandal Savage. A trusted officer of the original emporer Shi Huangdi assigned with the task of discovering a way to immortality, who accidentally makes himself immortal in the process.
The original Mandarin is a half-British, full Blue Blood, Impoverished Patrician with entitlement issues and a talent for tech and martial arts. He cosplays as a functionary of the Empire (either of them) but wasn't born when China was still Imperial.
Hm. Could be a good Foil to Danny Rand.
I mean, this we can work with. The mixed ancestry is full of potential for interesting questions. We could bring up the worst of both British and English nationalism and upper class culture. Let's start by sending him to Eton, it's such a perfect sociopath factory.
edited 21st Jan '18 9:45:30 PM by TheHandle
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Bonus points if his reaction to the monarchy falling was to influence both Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong into becoming brutal autocratic despots, essentially screwing over China and Taiwan out of revenge and spite.
Plus he's revealed to have secretly assassinated Sun Yat-sen, and killed Yuan Shikai when the new "Emperor" wasn't turning out to be very good.
edited 21st Jan '18 9:48:05 PM by TheWildWestPyro
Let's not. I hate this stuff. Blaming real human catastrophe caused by human stupidity and malice on supernatural agencies always bothers me (the worst example is undoubtedly the various iterations of We Didn't Start the Führer).
edited 21st Jan '18 9:55:21 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

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He try to get thug creed but...not, he is still a thug in behivor, as you can imagine that have divide the fanbase.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"