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ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#8326: Jun 24th 2024 at 8:03:39 PM

Sage Harpuia is one of the four guardians, Copy X's generals, from Mega Man Zero. He has a kind of begrudging respect based rivalry with Zero.

I was also under the impression that Harpuia was a she my knowledge of things not OG or X is really lacking huh.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#8327: Jun 24th 2024 at 8:13:53 PM

Fairy Leviathan was the only female member of the Four Guardians. The art style does lend more androgynous than the other series, to be fair.

ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#8328: Jun 24th 2024 at 8:15:43 PM

Do ya think Splash Woman is her great grandma.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#8329: Jun 24th 2024 at 8:23:02 PM

Closer to great aunt or distant cousin. The Four Guardians were all cloned from X's relpoid DNA. Would you consider the Rbot Masters as Rocks siblings or cousins?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#8330: Jun 25th 2024 at 4:12:14 AM

So they made a MvC Collection website that includes all the character portraits from every game

Which is really cool, some fantastic art.

As always the obscure picks fascinate me, who let Blackheart in here? That guy's a Ghost Rider villain. Like not a complaint, cool that he's here, just very interesting the story behind his pick.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 25th 2024 at 4:13:34 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#8331: Jun 25th 2024 at 7:11:14 AM

[up]It is funny how despite both being in the MVC series, Ghost Rider and Black Heart never appeared in the same game together.

AFan Since: Nov, 2022
#8332: Jun 25th 2024 at 7:19:26 AM

[up][up]And if you click on the MvC2 page, the last image shown has a team with Magneto, Storm, and Sentinel on it. Nice reference to the most infamous characters there.

diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#8333: Jun 25th 2024 at 9:01:25 AM

I imagine that's one of the reasons people loved Marvel vs. Capcom 2. It wasn't all "what characters make the most sense?" there was a lot of "Wouldn't it be cool to have this character? Marvel, can we add this character?" "Yeah, that would be dope! Do it!" And on the Capcom side, I assume they could do pretty much whoever. Maybe they had to get some creator permissions?

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#8334: Jun 25th 2024 at 9:21:34 AM

Maximillian talked about it in one of his recent videos on the subject. TL;DR Marvel had way less pull during the development of the old MvC games because their comics were going through a bust period following the big 90s comic boom, so Capcom was able to get away with a lot more instances of "this character looks cool, can we use them?" for things like Blackheart and Shuma-Gorath.

diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#8335: Jun 25th 2024 at 9:28:41 AM

Ah, that's a good point. Sometimes I forget there was a time Marvel was shitting itself financially.

And there was no need for "synergy" back then.

Edited by diddyknux on Jun 25th 2024 at 11:28:53 AM

TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#8336: Jun 25th 2024 at 9:34:36 AM

There was some synergy in that the X-Men were the biggest sellers of the Marvel line then and so most of the characters in the first few games were from the X-Men books. MVC 2 having two Wolverines is one of the most known instances of literal Wolverine Publicity.

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ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#8337: Jun 25th 2024 at 1:09:09 PM

Wildcard picks are always some of my favorites. But then you got lame nerds who complain of "Wasted slot!" Unlike enlightened nerds like me.

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Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#8338: Jun 25th 2024 at 3:47:25 PM

The internet was a great place back then.

TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#8339: Jun 26th 2024 at 7:04:18 AM

Homepages had much more heart than wikis.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#8340: Jul 7th 2024 at 11:13:09 AM

Thorgi did a pretty nice video on the significance of the collection and why he’s optimistic it could lead to more.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#8342: Jul 21st 2024 at 10:48:54 AM

Nice little interview from EVO that brings up the future of the series:

Of course, this release brought up the inevitable question: Does this mean another Marvel vs Capcom game could realistically happen? We got to ask the collection’s producer, Shuhei Matsumoto, that very question — and his answer gave us hope.

“The development team at Capcom has big dreams,” he said. “Maybe there is an opportunity for a new Marvel vs Capcom game. Maybe there is an opportunity for a new Capcom-based SNK game. I don’t know. But, if that were to happen, that would take some time and effort in order create and release those kinds of games, but the short-term with what we can do now is at least reintroduce these past legacy games to a new audience, to people who may not have the opportunity to play it, because it might not be out on modern or current platforms."

“What we can at least do now is to show that, hey, these series exist. We love these games. We hope that you do too, and maybe in the future, if people get to familiarize themselves with these series, then there may be future opportunities to make bigger games.”

Of course, many players were simply jazzed that this collection even happened in the first place. We had to ask how it came about, and what conversations occurred between Capcom and Marvel (now owned by Disney) to produce this welcome gift to the fighting game scene.

Matsumoto also told us something surprising; Marvel is very much aware of the vibrant community of Mv C players, and they still pay attention to competitive tournaments despite the most active games in the series being well over a decade old.

According to Matsumoto, both sides were keen on bringing this collection to life — and based on our conversation, it looks like future projects might hinge on players’ overall interest in the collection of arcade classics.

“In terms of past Capcom-developed Marvel titles, this has been something that myself and the team have been wanting to re-release for years and years now. It was just a matter of timing and making sure that everyone was on board. We’ve actually been in talks with Marvel for years now to see whether we can make this happen.

“They were also on board. Because of that, it’s kind of like the stars aligned. The timing was great, and now we are actually able to bring it to life. We’re all very excited. And some of the inspiration about doing this was that Marvel took notice of community-based tournaments at places like EVO.

“With Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 and other Marvel tournaments happening, they know that people really love the series and really want these games to be available on modern platforms, so now is the chance for them to do so.”

Let's hope this collection does well so they know there's interest in an MVC 4.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#8343: Jul 21st 2024 at 12:08:38 PM

Basically, if there's interest in VS titles, show interest. Buy the games. Wishlist on Steam. Pre-order if you don't have a problem doing that. Pick up SVC Choas if you can, too.

NightWarriorX4 from Land of Illusion Since: Jul, 2022 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#8344: Jul 21st 2024 at 8:05:11 PM

Based on nothing but vibes, expect MVC4 announced at Evo next year, due September 2026. This is my long distance called shot that will totally not be wrong. Also uhh reveal trailer will be Ryu & Cyclops doing the handshake in the RE engine, first gameplay is those two, Leon, Morrigan, Miles Morales, and Thor.

Speaking seriously, I do fully expect a new game at this point, feels like an inevitability, cuz there’s NO way this collection sells like anything but hotcakes.

Edited by NightWarriorX4 on Jul 21st 2024 at 8:09:38 AM

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#8345: Jul 21st 2024 at 8:31:30 PM

That interview all but explicitly says that there's no new game in the works. If the legacy games sell well, they can begin talks. If they actually get the okay from Disney, they can start work, and that would take a few years. I'd say 28 is the earliest I'd expect a theoretical MvC5. Though I'm not sure how likely any Vs game is, and the need to get Disney to agree to reasonable terms makes Marvel in specific difficult

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#8346: Jul 21st 2024 at 8:46:26 PM

I don't think we'll see an announcement for a new Capcom Vs Anybody crossover game until SF 6 starts to slow down, which isn't happening for a long, long time by the looks of it.

Similar to how SNK is handling the new Garou in relation to KOF XV.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 21st 2024 at 8:46:40 AM

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#8347: Jul 21st 2024 at 9:21:40 PM

...SNK just announced a SamSho ARPG and Art of Fighting 4

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#8348: Jul 21st 2024 at 9:26:32 PM

Both, just like Garou, while KOF XV, their flagship game, is in its waning years.

It's not about only doing one game at a time, it's about not pulling away from their biggest title while it's still in the period where it needs the most support.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 21st 2024 at 9:26:50 AM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#8349: Jul 23rd 2024 at 4:58:53 PM

Last time they did a big push like this and released MVC Origins, it took two years to announce a new game. Id expect a similar window here.

They wouldn't be speaking so candidly about the possibility of a new game if they weren't pushing for it to happen. But these things take time and active negotiation with other parties. And Disney is who they're negotiating with, so having extra push from fans can only help.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#8350: Jul 23rd 2024 at 5:27:11 PM

Yeah. It’s been argued that Capcom went a bit too hot too fast with the post-SF IV fighting push, so I suspect they’ll space it out like NRS or SNK this time. I listen to Jeff Gerstmann’s podcast and he similarly speculated that we could see a new Marvel vs Capcom once SF 6 is old enough that it’s no longer the fighting game division’s main priority.


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