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Apr 9th 2019 at 2:40:43 PM

How did you get Japanse companies = bad out of that?

Demongodofchaos2 Best Dad from Eldritch Nightmareland Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Best Dad
Apr 9th 2019 at 3:09:55 PM

You just said why Arc System works would be a bad fit for a Marvel vs DC fighter by trying to say that people familiar with the characters would hate it because it wouldn't be like a Netherealm game, and tried to say that Netherealm being "Triple Ay" would make them a better fit than Arc Sys.

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Apr 9th 2019 at 3:25:00 PM

I know Jim Sterling has made Triple A a couple of Bad Words but yes. There's a marked difference in the quality of Nether Realm's cinematics versus Arc System Work's.

You can sell a game on cutscenes like this alone:

Not so much this:

The gameplay is an entirely different matter, but I don't think it can be overstated just how high a bar for presentation Nether Realm has set for fighting games. Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, Tekken 7, and Street Fighter 5 all have high production value story modes because of them, and the expectation is especially going to be there for any fighting games featuring DC characters in the future. Impressive as Dragon Ball Fighterz was for replicating the anime's art style I don't think they'd draw in as big a crowd as Nether Realm would for a Marvel or DC fighter.

Edited by Hashil on Apr 9th 2019 at 4:28:21 AM

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Apr 9th 2019 at 3:36:54 PM

I would gladly sacrifice fancy cutscenes for fast gameplay and a cartoony art style. That's not even a question in my mind.

This song needs more love.
slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Apr 9th 2019 at 3:40:38 PM

Thankfully thatís not all they are/have.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 9th 2019 at 3:40:51 AM

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
Apr 9th 2019 at 3:53:59 PM

Netherrealmís gameplay is always known to be heir weakest department. Without even getting into how loose their mechanics decisions are (lol free damage), theyíre not great at capturing spectacle through normal gameplay - especially above a certain power echelon - which is why they rely so heavily on cutscenes to pick up that slack in the first place. Even Injustice is, gameplay wise, rather a lot like Mortal Kombat: grounded, slow paced and a bit plodding, reliant on repetitive pre-built moves, with an extremely basic system for mobility.

Iíd watch a Netherrealm made Marvel / DC crossover. Theyíd make a great RPG, story wise. But if I choice between playing a fighting game crossover between Netherrealm, Capcom or Arcsys, they wouldnt be my first choice.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 9th 2019 at 3:55:41 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
agent-trunks from Every-where, but there
Apr 9th 2019 at 3:54:14 PM

Why Arc Sys? Their story modes all suck and they're as Japanese as fighting game companies come.

To each & their own, but I like Blazblue giving everyone their spotlight in comparison to MK's chapter.

Apr 9th 2019 at 3:59:57 PM

Itís also worth noting that people did, in fact, rather well receive the style of cutscenes that Hashil linked from Fighter Z. What people didnít like about it wasnít the character focused cutscenes, but the repetitive and heavily padded nature of the rest od the story mode. Which is true: nobody weaves together story and gameplay in a fighting game like a Netherrealm.

But thatís hardly the only reason that would go into a crossover like that, nor does that mean everyone else is an invalid. Given the far more acclaimed stories of Blaz Blue and Guilty Gear, cherry picking Fighter Z as the sign that Arcsys canít handle a story is a bit disingenuous.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 9th 2019 at 4:17:19 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Apr 9th 2019 at 4:02:53 PM

Shit Iíd go for the GG team over the BB team if only so things donít get as convoluted. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 9th 2019 at 4:03:25 AM

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
Apr 9th 2019 at 4:03:51 PM

Blazblue and Guilty Gear's storytelling methods are both very niche and have even lower production values than Fighterz's, which is at least consistently animated.

I guess I should also say that, despite how much I'm talking NRS up, I'm not a huge fan of their gameplay, either. It's functional and they're objectively decent, well balanced games, but I would also prefer Capcom or even Arc Sys to develop things on the gameplay side.

I just think, given the recent comments Ed Boon made, NRS's past succcesses and Capcom's failings with their last few fighting games, that the former are more likely to pick up a Marvel vs DC license than the latter.

Edited by Hashil on Apr 9th 2019 at 5:06:55 AM

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Apr 9th 2019 at 4:20:08 PM

Itís also worth noting that people did, in fact, rather well receive the style of cutscenes that Hashil linked from Fighter Z.

Especially the fun character interactions between characters that that don't normally meet.

I know Jim Sterling has made Triple A a couple of Bad Words

He's hardly the first or the only one that criticizes Triple A practices.

Edited by Cortez on Apr 9th 2019 at 7:26:36 AM

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Apr 9th 2019 at 4:20:37 PM

Max's video recently delved into MVC and he mentioned that to his surprise, quite a few people he knows who aren't FGC members but bought Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite said the story mode was a major selling point to them.

I have no idea the veracity of there actually being a Marvel vs. DC game (is there a link to Boon's comments? I'm seeing people act like it's practically confirmed), but if there were one, I imagine the powers that be would want there to be a lot of attention paid to the story mode.

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Apr 9th 2019 at 4:50:48 PM

I was surprised by that statement as well, since I didn't think the story of MvCI was all that great, but then again I'm discovering it through the lens of people like the Two Best Friends who are invested enough in most of the characters to have that keener eye for the plot and power inconsistencies, as well as the low production values. I guess other people who aren't coming at it with such jade-tinted glasses are probably more forgiving.

slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Apr 9th 2019 at 4:53:58 PM

Itís like a Micheal Bay movie.

Itís some dumbass shit but possibly amusing enough in its dumbassery. tongue

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
Apr 9th 2019 at 5:18:08 PM

[up][up]He's pointed out before that a property like Marvel has a huge potential audience of casual players who might have an interest but aren't hardcore tournament gamers who wanna spend hours a day learning character tiers and combo strings. So in that regard, I can see why a story mode is more appealing to that crowd.

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Apr 9th 2019 at 5:51:04 PM

Yeah. I really dont care how good the cutscenes are. All a DC vs Marvel game would really need would be some comic panels acting as the connective tissue between fights.

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agent-trunks from Every-where, but there
Apr 9th 2019 at 6:21:51 PM

I have no idea the veracity of there actually being a Marvel vs. DC game (is there a link to Boon's comments? I'm seeing people act like it's practically confirmed)

Right here

Edited by agent-trunks on Apr 9th 2019 at 6:22:17 AM

Apr 9th 2019 at 11:48:42 PM

Interesting. But I'll wait until we have legit confirmation. But if so there are some very interesting possibilities.

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Apr 10th 2019 at 4:08:09 AM

So i think this thread could use a lil bit of excitement, so here is a match that wandered into my timeline

agent-trunks from Every-where, but there
Apr 10th 2019 at 8:04:39 PM

Do twitter videos usually have that much views?


Well that was one hell of a comeback video. With Chris of all people.

Apr 10th 2019 at 8:06:03 PM

Other guy was on tilt hard halfway through and I can't blame him. Should of just chipped him out with supers.

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Much more than meets the eye!
Apr 15th 2019 at 8:03:03 AM

Not Marvel vs. Capcom-related (sorry for raising any hope), but definitely Capcom fighting game-related:

Are we getting a new Capcom fighting game compilation?

I only recognize Darkstalkers and CAPCOM'S ALIEN VS. PREDATOR?!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 15th 2019 at 11:16:20 AM

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CountofBleck I COME IN WITH THE GOONS! from A world of lies and deception Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
I COME IN WITH THE GOONS!
Apr 15th 2019 at 10:38:47 AM

.....hey guys.

Disney owns fox

They have rights to alIen and predator

Dude.

DUUUUUDE.

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Hamston ball
Apr 15th 2019 at 10:53:32 AM

So that means?

Disney owns capcom now? tongue

Cursed hamster boi
Apr 15th 2019 at 10:58:16 AM

It's probably just an arcade compilation and they worked out the legal issues with re-releasing the Aliens vs. Predators beat 'em up. Most of the games in that reel weren't even fighting games.

Kind of weird thing to have a pre-announcement for, though, so who knows.

Edited by Hashil on Apr 15th 2019 at 11:58:36 AM


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