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Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Nov 17th 2016 at 11:53:48 AM

Per this Wiki Talk topic, and various prior conversations, it has been determined that the "non-canon" subpages attached to various works do not fit the purpose of the wiki and will be removed. In summary, we are not here to document fandom ideas; we are here to document tropes in discrete works. Fanworks have their own place, so the non-canon subpages are also redundant.

The work process is as follows:

  • Users may claim specific articles for cleaning. If you do so, please post here when you are starting and when you have finished.
  • While each article is being worked on, place a prominent note at the top linking to this topic. Suggestion:
This "non-canon" article is being scrubbed in preparation for removal. For more information, see this forum topic.
  • Transplant examples on these pages to more appropriate venues if possible. These can include Fanworks, Fanfic Recs, and articles for specific fics if it's a trope example.
  • Examples that should be left off include any that do not reference a discrete work or that reference fan art, blogs/forum posts, or other things that would not be eligible for a wiki article.
  • After each article is scrubbed as well as possible, submit it to the Cut List. It will be cut and locked to prevent re-creation.


Full list of non-canon pages (using the wiki title search tool):

edited 17th Nov '16 11:54:53 AM by Fighteer

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Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Nov 17th 2016 at 12:06:15 PM

To kick this off, I note that Albedo Erma Felna EDF Non Canon contains tropes about a character that was created by the author of the work but whose appearance was in a story outside official continuity. Our standing rule is that Dummied Out content goes to Trivia, but I don't think that counts in this particular case.

Rather, I suggest that the page be moved to Albedo Erma Felna EDF Steves Reality Check, as that is the actual name of the story being referenced.

edited 17th Nov '16 12:06:37 PM by Fighteer

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TotemicHero Not a bug! from the next level
Not a bug!
Nov 17th 2016 at 12:08:00 PM

Upon checking, you can strike the Characters.Albedo Erma Felna EDF Non Canon from the list, as it's a separate thing and not actually related to this cleanup. (Specifically, it's a character sheet for the characters from that work who have been RetConned out of continuity.)

Edit: Wow, I got mega [nja]'d. Anyway, I'm okay with above proposal.

edited 17th Nov '16 12:08:57 PM by TotemicHero

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Nov 17th 2016 at 12:11:56 PM

Or, we could leave it alone, as you noted. It's certainly a reasonable name for such things. I worry that it would cause confusion for the cleanup effort, though.

edited 17th Nov '16 12:12:39 PM by Fighteer

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TropesForever Nowhere Man from Tropesburg Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Nowhere Man
TuefelHundenIV Watchman of the Apocalypse from Wandering Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Watchman of the Apocalypse
Nov 17th 2016 at 4:54:44 PM

So I took a peek at How to train your dragon Funny Non-cannon. Most of it isn't going to make it. However there is a link to a fan created short. Emphasis on short as it is a 16 second clip.

See here

So what should I do with this?

"Who watches the watchmen?"
Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Nov 17th 2016 at 5:44:48 PM

General fan works can still go on Fanfic Recs, as I understand it, even if they aren't "fics". Needs someone to write it up as a recommendation, though.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Nov 17th 2016 at 9:18:42 PM

What if you can't, in all honesty, recommend a particular fic? Do you have to leave it in the hopes that someone else with sufficiently different tastes will come along and think it's great? Seems like that would slow down the cleanup immensely!

Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Nov 18th 2016 at 4:35:44 AM

Nah. If it's that good, someone will eventually write up a proper rec. If you can't find a place for it, dump it.

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N1KF The Number1KirbyFan Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Number1KirbyFan
Nov 27th 2016 at 10:25:30 PM

For the fan fics that had their own pages in TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Non Canon, I merged all of them over. With the exception of The Conversion Bureau: The Other Side of the Spectrum (which looks too long and tedious for me), all of the remaining entries are from works without pages.

Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Jan 30th 2017 at 6:52:34 AM

So, the Under Tale pages are unsurprisingly kind of a mess.

Specifically, on at least the TearJerker.Under Tale, Heartwarming.Under Tale, and NightmareFuel.Under Tale pages all have Non-canon sections on the actual pages, in addition to the fact that the fact that Funny.Undertale Non Canon exists.

Can I go ahead and raze these?

Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Jan 30th 2017 at 8:54:01 AM

HOLY SHIT.

Just added Funny.Undertale Non Canon. 5808 inbounds. That... is not getting cut, huh? Turn it into a redirect for Funny.Undertale?

Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
valozzy Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Feb 1st 2017 at 10:26:11 AM

At what point can you not cut a page because of inbounds? HighOctaneNightmareFuel.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Non Canon (what a mouthfull) is only a redirect, with 158 inbounds.

"Making peace to build our future, / Strong, united, working 'till we fall."
Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Feb 1st 2017 at 11:20:21 AM

158 is not enough for a keep, I think. Not for something as huge as MLP.

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valozzy Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Feb 2nd 2017 at 6:06:42 AM

Alright, it's on the Cut List. [tup]

If it's possible, I'd like to claim the Big Hero 6 Non-Canon pages, starting with Funny.Big Hero 6 Non Canon.

"Making peace to build our future, / Strong, united, working 'till we fall."
Feb 16th 2017 at 12:47:53 PM

Do we have to delete the pages? I think that would cause a lot more problems than it would solve.

Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Feb 16th 2017 at 12:48:57 PM

Obviously. Why would we leave them around, but blank? That's against policy. Aside from the loss of a few inbounds, deleting them accomplishes exactly the goal we want: to ensure that people don't try this stunt again.

edited 16th Feb '17 12:49:22 PM by Fighteer

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Feb 16th 2017 at 12:54:28 PM

Can we at least still have access to the edit history section of the pages?

edited 16th Feb '17 12:54:37 PM by mariic

Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Feb 16th 2017 at 12:56:55 PM

Cutting an article removes its edit history from public view. Moderators can access it but general users cannot. If you want to keep any of the content on those pages for personal use, copy it before it's removed. That's how it always works.

edited 16th Feb '17 12:57:08 PM by Fighteer

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Feb 16th 2017 at 3:50:03 PM

What if we host them on a different website?

Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Feb 16th 2017 at 4:49:38 PM

You can do anything you like on your own website (broadly speaking). However, copying the content directly from TV Tropes would fall under our Creative Commons license, which contains certain restrictions. We certainly will not endorse or promote a site that hosts material that we've cut from ours.

edited 16th Feb '17 4:50:45 PM by Fighteer

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Feb 16th 2017 at 5:58:35 PM

Just checking, but fanfic pages like Ashes of the Past, This Bites, and Infinite Loops won't be lost will they?

Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Feb 16th 2017 at 6:02:52 PM

I don't follow. We are only removing content from subpages that have "Non Canon" in the title.

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