Flip Flappers

Agreed. Honestly, I think the show could've used a double-length finale, but that might have killed the animators working on it.

The most important part of the finale, however, is post-shower Sayuri and her film/anime-nerd room.

edited 29th Dec '16 1:49:17 PM by majoraoftime

I enjoyed the fake-out. I thought it was clever to have Pure Illusion pull out a 'cliche bittersweet anime epilogue' world right at the end in response to Cocona's fears of losing it and Papika. And, of course, for the show to explicitly reject a cliche bittersweet ending in favour a more idealistic one.

Wish we'd gotten an actual kiss, though.

^That's fair enough, I guess.

And yes, post-shower Sayuri. As long as Salt isn't hiding in the shower.

Well, you know what they say: salt makes you thirsty and boy is she thirsty for Salt.

So I guess it's over. Ending could be better, but could be a lot worse. There was stuff that should have been there that wasn't and things that shouldn't have been there that were. Which is sort of the problem with the series as a whole— It spent a lot of time just doing random stuff instead of focusing on it's strengths

Overall, I'm glad I watched it, and would recommend it, but there's definitely things I'd recommend above it

Apparently my last post was one of those ones where people interpret everything I say to be the exact opposite of what I meant. But anyway...

For the most part, the ending didn't really change anything or take any unexpected turns, which is kind of remarkable given how over-the-top bonkers it was visually; but since it largely averted any sense of "but they're not really gay" or other eleventh-hour anime trope nonsense, I'd say it was a good ending. No kiss, but you'd have to be as crazy as Salt's dad to not interpret the "love, love, love you" scene as a two-way romantic confession. Big Damn Kiss endings aren't really the Japanese style, even for straight romance.

My crazy theory largely turned out to be false, although there was that bit where Salt went into the machine of doom and said he was going to "cover Pure Illusion with another layer." Going by the fake-out scene—the most realistic segment in the whole show—I'm guessing grey-tinted-boringopolis was the original reality, but some Pure Illusion leaked out and made the world a bit strange: a perfectly normal bunny turned into a green bloboid, some crazy guy turned into a genuine mad scientist, and so on. Which also fits with the theme of Papika and Cocona balancing each other out—Papika-land would be too random, like what the outside world was becoming in this last episode with freaky stuff popping up everywhere, and Cocona-land would be dull and lifeless.

It's not exactly clear, but it looks to me like the way they got baby Cocona out of Pure Illusion was she was never in there at all. They showed Mimi handing the baby off to Papika before she disappeared. The tree-cage scene was apparently somewhere in the "real" world. Although, I think the clearest thing at this point is that the boundary between Illusion and "reality" is not well-defined, nor is it meant to be.

edited 30th Dec '16 12:00:50 AM by Kotomikun

Yeah, that makes sense. I'll be looking forward to the usual analysis posts, but so far the last episode seems like a classic example of the ending more or less being split into two episodes that don't quiiite work with a week between them, like the finale of Kill la Kill.

Honestly? I liked grey-tinted-boringopolis better than the actual reality. I think I would have preferred this anime if it had more...normal elements...and people...to balance out the weird stuff. It was good enough, but I'll probably forget about it soon, sadly.

I just marathoned this anime and it was an enjoyabe trippy four hours of my life.

But why do I get the feeling that Flip Flappers Flip Flopped in Japan?

Translation of a magazine interview with the director: https://twitter.com/HugBdrill/status/816746188024053760

Hello all, I'm new to this thread but I enjoy Flip Flappers a great deal, so much so I went and added tropes to the page.

I require some feedback on the following however:

• Uexkull's entry states that he's an Asclepius Experiment by the name of UXKL. I need sources on this or I'm calling bull.
• A piece of official art has Cocona lustfully gazing at Papika, is there a trope for this? Pic here◊.
• With regards to Papika's inability to pronounce simple words, is the trope Baby Talk suitable?

I appreciate feedback.

I can't answer the other questions but when it comes for the wall scroll of Cocona making bedroom eyes at Papika you can probably file that under Les Yay

Another question:

Is the trope Deranged Animation suitable for describing Episode 13's environments where PI is bleeding out inot reality?

Also, is there a trope describing the omnious non-latin chanting that sometimes play whenever things get serious?

And who is the seiyuu for Pops?

edited 6th Jan '17 12:44:56 AM by Zansnae793

Yeah, Deranged Animation seems appropriate.

Dunno if we have a trope specifically for non-latin chanting.

The trope is not actually language restricted.

Cheers for the clarification.

On another note, I've just finished adding Welwitschia onto the Characters page. I appreciate feedback on the accuracy of the tropes added.

I'll work on Pops' entry tomorrow.

Also, is there a trope describing Papika's anklet? Something along the lines of Restraining Bolt but not affecting the characters themselves.

edited 6th Jan '17 7:09:33 AM by Zansnae793

I was thinking Chained by Fashion, but that implies power limiting, too.

Not necessarily though. Free off off Soul Eater is mentioned there and he didn't have his power limited.

http://matomame.jp/user/FrenchToast/54318040f438fc6e8fc2?page=1

For anyone curious on the symbolism and themes in the anime, the link above showcases a lot. (In Japanese)

On another note, is there a trope detailing the anime's use of audio as a running gag-esque theme? Like the titles, character names, musical instruments everywhere and such.

EDIT: I'm currently using Rule of Symbolism with the following text accompanying it. Is it appropriate?

• The most notable use of symbolism used is with regards to audio as a theme. Symbols relating to audio can be seen throughout the anime, from character names (Mimi meaning Ear in Japanese), placement of musical instruments (OP has the twins playing piano while Salt's room has a guitar and a keyboard), titles of the anime being Pure [Audio Terminology], to various items in the series resembling audio equipment (for instance, ELPIS resembling a cassette player.

Also I just completed Pops' entry on the Characters page. Please tell me if any tropes are missing/inaccurate.

edited 7th Jan '17 6:23:38 AM by Zansnae793

Sorta wanted to post this artlcle which contains a pretty lengthy essay of the author absolutely gushing over the show. Although I think that the show stumbled slightly in the last few episodes, I mostly agree that it was an excellent show, probably my favorite since Yuki Yuna.

Also as much of a yuri fan that I am I wasn't really aware of the symbolism of nail clippers.

If you want some good analysis on the themes and symbolism of some stuff in the series, this blog is amazing for it.

Oh man, the nail clippers were probably the most blatant hint to that kind of thing I've seen in a while.

Yes, yes, I too immediately noticed the obvious connection between nail clippers and lesbian sex. Because it's so obvious. >_>

Well, blatant's not the right word, really, more like... once you're told/realize what it signifies, you kind of have to take a moment and go 'wow, that's not subtle at all.'

I just thought Salt wanted to cut his damn nails.

also, Atelier Emily's post are really good as well.