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Sep 12th 2019 at 1:37:39 AM

Are they implying crossover with classic continuity?

Ungrateful-Wolf Definitely not a traitor from Yes Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Sep 12th 2019 at 1:47:00 PM

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe. Don't get your hopes up.

Sep 12th 2019 at 2:35:55 PM

I was thinking, the show can't go on for many more seasons, right? I mean, each season Ben gains new aliens and loses old ones and by now, he lost half of the original line-up. Losing Grey Matter was odd, but let's face it, I don't suspect they'll let Ben lose Xlr 8 or Cannonbolt and there is no way they let him lose Heatblast or Four Arms.

Of course I could be wrong and maybe Ben will start losing new aliens like Rath or Shock Rock,idk, what do you think?

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Sep 13th 2019 at 3:08:17 PM

People on Discord have been speculating about XLR8 and Cannonbolt due to how little we've seen them. And I've seen at least one person hoping Rath goes away.

Edited by Ungrateful-Wolf on Sep 13th 2019 at 10:08:36 AM

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Sep 13th 2019 at 3:32:50 PM

Aww, rath is my favorite.

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Sep 14th 2019 at 5:33:43 AM

The synopsis for I Don't Like You has been revealed.

"Ben and Gwen's social media battle with Kevin 11 quickly escalates into an all-out war in real life."

This episode sounds so meta, doesn't help that Kevin came back for his favorite show to get canceled in a previous ep.

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Sep 21st 2019 at 5:34:31 AM

Season premiere was reported to October 10th. Guess we'll have to settle with the 10/10 date, gotta blame the Area 51 raid for that one.

Also, an interview with Eugene Son affirmed that we had an episode about aliens pooping gold because of the network killing the writers' story. This whole time, the episode was actually a revenge plot.

Imagine being so petty about not getting to write what you want, you make an episode about literal shit made of gold...

Sep 21st 2019 at 10:17:35 AM

[up]That would be crazy...

Where I live, there was a Ben 10-themed marathon on October 10, 2010. Ben 10: Alien Force was the prominent contender. I caught a bit of it and liked it so far.

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Sep 21st 2019 at 12:03:10 PM

So just saw a battle on Youtube between Ben & Gwen fighting Forever Knight, and Kevin sacrifices himself in a portal to stop him. Guessing that was the end of season 3?

Sep 21st 2019 at 12:13:46 PM

[up]While I didn't saw it, I've read that part on Wikia. And yep, it's from the two-part episode "Rondabout". Cartoon Network in the U.S. didn't even air it as the Season 3 finale, it was instead aired as episodes 31 and 32 (!).

What's up, Doc?
Ungrateful-Wolf Definitely not a traitor from Yes Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Sep 21st 2019 at 1:27:52 PM

And here comes season 4's promo.

Edited by Ungrateful-Wolf on Sep 21st 2019 at 10:22:36 AM

Sep 21st 2019 at 4:52:12 PM

[up][up] thanks, and that's really dumb of Cartoon Network to do. Then again, OK KO's series finale got special event instead of series finale.

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Sep 22nd 2019 at 12:32:55 AM

[up] x2 The Weather Heads listed as Galactic villains?

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Sep 22nd 2019 at 2:23:27 AM

Considering they were making a hurricane to space, I wouldn't be surprised if their creators were of alien origins.

Also, Cirque-Us aired and

HOLY SHIT THAT WAS SO SAD AND CUTE AND WARM AND IT MAKES MY HEART FIZZLE

So, here's what happens:

The Tennysons go to Max's old Alma mater and when danger is about to happen, Gwen advises Ben on what to do. The college's dean thanks Ben, believing he saved the day on his own, and Ben fails to get the memo that Gwen expected him to give her some credit, while Zombozo watches from the shadows.

The Tennysons go as honored guests (well, more like Ben, but Max doesn't care while Gwen does). When they go inside, Max suggests Gwen helps checking on the guests coming to the alumni reunion, much to her dismay since she wanted to attend the party.

Zombozo turns out to be the one behind the Cirque act (no surprise there) and his goons take over the party with a mind control machine while Ben's under the table, dizzy from eating too much from the buffet.

Gwen gets inside the room from the back after the guest entry door was locked (she's so annoyed). She realizes Zombozo's there, and Zombozo uses his gear to turn her into a goon. Ben notices Zombozo way too late, goes Humungousaur to stop the Circus Freaks.

Pirouette makes her entry and distracts Ben while Zombozo is busy stealing money from guests and candy from babies. After Ben manages to neutralize the Circus Freaks, he fights Pirouette and her mask falls off, revealing Gwen.

Ben doesn't do anything to fight her while she keeps using her mallet to whack him. She calls him out on hurting her, always making himself look good even if it hurts others, all while hitting him. She complains about never getting thanked despite how many times she helped Ben, being pushed to the side while he gets all the credits and congratulations when she comes up with most of the good ideas.

Ben times out, and as he's about to get hit, Gwen tears up, saying she always feels left out. To her surprise, Ben tells her to go along with it, feeling he deserved it. He apologizes, calling himself nothing but a jerk and telling her he didn't mean to get credit for all her ideas and hurt her without realizing it, doubting he was being a hero. Which stuns Gwen upon hearing him.

She throws the mallet at Zombozo, knocking him out and helping Ben get back up. He goes Shock Rock and creates a mallet and a trampoline for her to jump on, resulting in her destroying the mind control device and freeing all guests.

Zombozo manages to escape with the big check of money, and Ben tries to run after him... but Gwen points out he can't cash those, as they're just for show. He admits NOT knowing that, and praises Gwen for breaking out of Zombozo's control.

Except as it turns out, she was never under control. She just pretended to just to teach Ben a lesson. Ben didn't complain about it in the end (he did complain about her punching his fist hard when they fist bumped though).

Afterwards, at the ceremony, Ben gets thanked for saving the day once again, and gets all the praises. He then notices Gwen on the side, looking sad. Remembering the whole episode's ordeal, he brought Gwen onto the podium and thanked her in front of the guests, resulting in everyone praising her. For added feelies, BEN CALLED HER HIS HERO!

Episode ends on Zombozo trying to cash on the big check on a cash dispenser, which is way too small to take in a huge thing that doesn't have actual money value. The cops arrive and arrest him and the Circus Freaks.

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Sep 22nd 2019 at 2:27:42 AM

Things this episode brought us:

  • Ben apologized as soon as he realized he was in the wrong, showing he in fact did mature, but still has a lot to learn about other's feelings (as well that Gwen misinterpreted his attitude as selfishness rather than ignorance).

  • Gwen is apparently willing to go bad guy and hurt Ben a lot if it's to teach him a lesson.

  • A Tennyson joined the baddies because they felt inadequate in saving the day but rather than feeling miserable, they felt bitter and angry at their family about it.

With that in mind, it's no wonder Ben joined Forever Knight...

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Sep 27th 2019 at 10:19:51 AM

WHAT IN NAME OF AZMUTH IS THAT??? WHEREíS THE MOUTH??? AND WHY DOES THAT PART OF THE COSTUME LOOK LIKE A JACKET???

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Ungrateful-Wolf Definitely not a traitor from Yes Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Sep 27th 2019 at 10:24:05 AM

The mouth is probably under the armor, like Overflow's exoskeleton suit. It probably looks like a jacket because of the cardboard box and Christmas decorations on it.

Still, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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Sep 27th 2019 at 1:23:52 PM

Idea of Ben wanting to beat Kevin and returning to crash site is interesting one, but unless they'll explain it somehow, it suggests that this Asmuth intended Omnitrix to be a weapon after all, which is disappointing.

Hm, just noticed that armors wear Omnitrix sideways.

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Sep 27th 2019 at 3:06:22 PM

Theories time!

  • Plot twist: the Omni-Kix wasn't there before Ben got the watch, someone else put it inside the pod after Ben left with the Omnitrix, aware that he'd want that kind of power.

To quote "Ben Again" (which was even referenced in the one episode where Ben gets the Omnitrix for the first time again): "Nobody would ever think to look for something hidden at the start of a treasure map!"

  • Remember the theory that Vilgax had a role similar to Myaxx in the reboot? Which would explain how he knows so much about it. Well, how about... Vilgax creating the Omni-Kix?

Assuming Vilgax was Azmuth's assistant, he may have wanted to weaponize the Omnitrix for his own ends, creating the Omni-Kix to match with the Omnitrix. Azmuth eventually caught on and punished him, sealing his power inside the watch and keeping the Omni-Kix away from the watch, only for it to end up in the Omnitrix's pod as well.

Ideas backing this up:

  • Vilgax doesn't seem all that fazed by Ben's Omni-Enhancements after the first few times, suggesting he may know upgrades are possible, simply not thinking it was possible with Fulmini energy instead of the Omni-Kix (hence Vilgax considering Ben has an admirable but foolish use of the watch as he unlocked a secret ability the wrong way).
  • In the season 2 finale, he says he'd make his own Omnitrix with the Omni-Core, so who's to say he can't also just give the forms upgrades?

As for the sideways Omnitrix, it's even green. I think it's straight-up referencing how the Ultimatrix used to have its symbol twisted for the evolutionary feature. Maybe Ben will turn the symbol to activate the armor.

Alternatively, whoever made the Omni-Kix also sent Kevin the AntiTrix blueprints, seeing as Cannonbolt's Omni-Kix resembles Wreckingbolt.

Edited by Ungrateful-Wolf on Sep 27th 2019 at 10:11:00 AM

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Sep 28th 2019 at 1:45:47 PM

Okay so:

New alien shorts:

Also, OMNI-KIX HEATBLAST LOOKS SO FUCKING SICK

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Sep 28th 2019 at 2:39:55 PM

Wonder what Ben's reaction will be

Edited by Ungrateful-Wolf on Sep 28th 2019 at 9:53:38 AM

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Sep 29th 2019 at 12:25:46 AM

[up][up] Well, thatís surly better than whatever we have seen before. Last time I saw it I was complaining about his precious face being blocked.

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