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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#6351: Apr 22nd 2020 at 6:34:14 AM

It makes Sae look adorably stupid tho.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#6352: Apr 22nd 2020 at 6:37:27 AM

a bit. then again, the entire interrogation is a recipe for a lot of ridiculous situations, so sae simply making wrong assumptions because the alternative is crazier isn't the least sensible thing to happen there.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#6353: Apr 22nd 2020 at 7:28:31 AM

since i assume that "Futaba is sojiro's daughter and is good at hacking too" wouldn't fly in a court as evidence of her being the team's hacker.
Except Sae already knows that Futaba took down Medjed as the team's hacker.

Bewitching Eyes
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#6354: Apr 22nd 2020 at 7:39:57 AM

Oh, right. I forget that bit because the only way my brain has to make sense of the deal at the end where sae asks you to sell your team is to assume joker managed to refer to everyone in the team by their codenames everytime they were doing something illegal and absolutely refused to establish the connection between the codename and the person.

Edited by Yumil on Apr 22nd 2020 at 4:45:14 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#6355: Apr 22nd 2020 at 7:40:01 AM

I read that as Sae trying to find as many people as possible to prosecute to advance her career, so she would be reaching.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#6356: Apr 22nd 2020 at 7:49:45 AM

I like to think that what really changed Sae's heart was hearing about how awful her Shadow acted

Bewitching Eyes
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#6357: Apr 22nd 2020 at 7:59:17 AM

She was legitimately surprised to find out she had a palace. Up until that point (Futaba excluded) all the Palace owners had been pretty rotten people.

One Strip! One Strip!
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#6358: Apr 22nd 2020 at 8:08:04 AM

"Alright, your palace. So, Uh, bad news and good news. Good news is you still see humans beings as such.

-I'm sorry, is that supposed to account for something ?

-Sae, Madarame saw his pupils as litteral paintings to exploit, Kaneshiro saw them as walking AT Ms, and Okumura as robots devoted to him. The fact your perception of the average joe IS an average joe is an anomaly for a palace ruler at this point. Even kamoshida still had normal people entirely submissive to them. So, as far as I can tell, it implies you treat human beings with the decendy expected of one. That's pretty nice if you ask me.

-Mmm. And the bad news ?

-You shadow looks like a hooker.

-WHAT ?

- very classy hooker, mind you. The all black, leather outfit does work pretty well. The eyeliner might be a bit too thick though, the first time I saw it i thought it was kinda like my mask. Also your holster has spikes on it. I guess some people are into that. I just wish your shadow wore underwear, y'know ? Cause I know you're gonna tell me i'm just affabulating out of my horny teenager's imagination, but I can assure you I wish your shadow left anything up to imagination. Is it some kind of old shame thing you've done once younger and swore never to do again ?

- spontaneous combustion noises

-Oh, also, I don't think I've made this clear, but uh. You see the court as a casino.

-... come again ?

-Yeah, one with kickass ambiance music on top of that. soemthing about giving into temptation to win it. Or maybe to lose it all. You're the manager here. And since you make the rules, the main thing that made this palace so long to clear was that you kept changing the rules and literally stacked the deck in your favor to prevent us from getting up there. It's a good thing crow outplayed you because you seem to have a dedication at spitting on the spirit of the expression "fair and square" despite being so fond of using it.

-that has got to be a lie. That's your story to convince me ? Don't have anything better ?

-Sae, a shadow is the part of you you can't accept. If it remotely sounded like something you could be fine with, you'd know i'd be bullshitting you. Now look me straight in the eye and tell me winning at all costs isn't a thing that has been on your mind lately.

-I...

-... thought so. May I resume my story now ?"

Edited by Yumil on Apr 22nd 2020 at 5:14:23 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
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#6359: Apr 22nd 2020 at 8:39:58 AM

Which brings something to mind. We got Cognitive Haru in Royal, but did we get one for Makoto?

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#6360: Apr 22nd 2020 at 8:43:18 AM

nope.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#6361: Apr 22nd 2020 at 8:50:16 AM

I think that makes sense.

Haru was intergral to Okamura's plans, and him seeing her as a loyal machine reflects that.

Makoto really doesn't have anything to do with Sae's life as a prosecutor at this point, so why would she be in her place of work.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#6362: Apr 22nd 2020 at 9:35:14 AM

[up] Jeez, it's a good thing that cognitive Haru was nowhere near a certain asshole.

Also Sugimura is STILL human, that speaks volumes.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#6363: Apr 22nd 2020 at 9:37:11 AM

Eh. He does turn into a robot later, but yeah that's pretty shitty Okamura.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#6364: Apr 23rd 2020 at 12:41:15 PM

So Maruki is a good antagonist in his own right, but I also like how doesn't suffer the pitfalls of his villain type.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#6365: Apr 23rd 2020 at 12:42:51 PM

I can't take him seriously after I realized he has a gold thong as part of his Persona costume

Bewitching Eyes
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#6367: Apr 23rd 2020 at 4:11:52 PM

Didn't need it cause I was alreayd glued at gamefaqs for time management anyway and confident answers were bundled in. But yeah, great addition.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
Kakuzan Let memes die. Kill them, if you have to. from Knock knock, open up the door, it's real. Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Let memes die. Kill them, if you have to.
#6368: Apr 23rd 2020 at 5:34:56 PM

I started using it just before Shido's Palace since I was getting a bit tired of constantly looking up the best choices, and I have nearly everyone maxed right now (I still have to finish Futaba and Shinya).

Don't catch you slippin' now.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#6369: Apr 24th 2020 at 11:18:40 AM

Joker: *scarfs down massive big bang burgers for six months*
Okumura: By the way we've been meat from, like, dogs or something in our burgers. Also our restaurants are all really unclean.

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#6370: Apr 24th 2020 at 11:23:22 AM

The arteries becoming clogged would probably kill him long before any bacteria.

To say nothing of using experimental drugs in a not really controlled environment.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#6371: Apr 24th 2020 at 11:25:57 AM

Okumura has likely killed more people than Kamoshida and Madarame, and is probably tied with Kaneshiro thanks to being a public health menace as well as running a glorified sweatshop fast food place.

Like really, Okumura may have been taken down for the wrong reasons but it was still good he was taken down.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#6372: Apr 24th 2020 at 12:01:12 PM

Plus The Royal gives us Robot Haru, meaning more fanart.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#6373: Apr 24th 2020 at 12:08:51 PM

[up] Robot Haru is a horrifying look into the mind of an abusive dad, but damn if she isn't adorable.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#6374: Apr 24th 2020 at 12:18:05 PM

that's one of the bits of the game that doesn't flow all that well. The thieves act like they've been set up by the conspiracy to deal with okumura, like they were blinded by glory and all, but the entire thought process of selecting okumura as a target was

"Okumura is the person who benefits the most of all the mental shutdowns, there's a suspicion he might be behind those, we should look into that. he's also on top of the poll anyway so that's a plus I guess."

and then shortly after their first trip to the palance, became,

"WE GOTTA HELP HARU OUT OF THIS SHIT. Also, Okumura is the person who benefits the most of all the mental shutdowns, there's a suspicion he might be behind those, we should look into that. he's also on top of the poll anyway so that's a plus I guess."

The (fabricated) poll results were always just a nice coincidence adding up to eminently more valid reasons to select him. But again, it sorta plays into the theme of the conspiracy expecting to be playing the PT like a fiddle and then it turns out they're way more competent than they would expect (Medjed, and to a certain extent, the casino fiasco that followed).

It's cool that ryuji gets the wake-up call and all but the only thing they truly did wrong was leave without waiting to check that Okumura's shadow returned to his real selve.

Edited by Yumil on Apr 24th 2020 at 9:25:11 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#6375: Apr 24th 2020 at 12:29:20 PM

Did they change the Morgana and ryuji argument, or is it as bad as in the original?

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