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I don't really have any. Just get a big black guy.
edited 10th Aug '16 5:22:50 PM by Cruherrx
I've always liked Young Justice's characterization of Black Manta as a Captain Nemo-esque figure. I really wish the current comic had gone with that dynamic instead of the banal "You Killed My Father so now I have a massive hateboner for you" motivation.
The struggle with Black Manta is that he is human but with advanced technology that can rival an Atlantean in strength and deep ocean capabilities, along with a faceless army with no apparent recruitment infrastructure. The best way to deal with that would have to be something like pilfered Apokaliptian technology, or even just stolen Atlantian tech.
What's wrong with that motivation?
How is that a problem?
....I can't even imagine how this movie would look like.
I just haven't watched a lot of movies that have extensive scenes on or underwater. The only ones I can think of are Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy and that scene from the fourth Harry Potter movie.
Human technology in the DCEU thus far is in what I would call a "hyper realistic" state, it's more advanced but in just key, underplayed areas instead of being supertech that has little to no trickle down effect on modern society. Compare Bruce's mech suit to Tony Stark creating even his early Iron Man armors (sans the first prototype built in the cave). The mech suit is clunky, heavy, restricts his speed and range of motion, on top of that has no built in weaponry. Stark armor is sleek, flexible, loads of built in weapons and highly mobile because it can fly. Compared to the real world, the mech suit is more realistic in terms of a cutting edge Powered Armor. In a fight against Superman or Aquaman with any degree of equality, the bare minimum you'd need is the supertech Stark armor. Where someone got that while billionaire Bruce Wayne, who has access to some of the best R&D in the world, is stuck with soldering his own together, it breaks the established boundaries of the Shared Universe.
I'd imagine that's one reason why Ant Man was a later MCU movie, as in a world where Iron Man exists it becomes more feasible someone like Ant Man exists.
The conceit of the DCEU is that comic book stuff has already been happening, it was just under the radar.
It's cliched as hell and makes the character incredibly one-note.
As I've said, it'd be really interesting to build Manta up as a tragic Captain Nemo-like figure. BM and his people has suffered oppression and injustice on land, so he opts to seek refuge and freedom in the deep ocean, only to find it has been claimed by the Atlanteans and their royalty, whom Manta sees as tyrants no better than the ones on the surface world that he has left behind...
Basically, I want Black Manta to be the Lex Luthor of the seas.
edited 11th Aug '16 4:56:51 AM by Nightwire
I hope he's nothing like this universe's whiny ass baby kiddie Lex.
Wan talks about the speech problem for underwater characters.
Since when the crap does Lex try to uplift the oppressed ?
Well, at least that's what Luthor tries to convince himself and others of. But I think you are missing the actual point. I was talking about how I'd like Black Manta to be written. I'm saying Manta should view Aquaman and the rest of the Atlanteans the same way Lex Luthor looks at Superman and the Kryptonians.
edited 11th Aug '16 9:13:20 AM by Nightwire
Secret Origin has a daily ritual of Lex's where he picks a (seemingly) random person out of a crowd in front of the Lexcorp tower and reeducates them to become successful.
edited 11th Aug '16 1:36:06 PM by Tuckerscreator
I'm not sure if this is him announcing he got cast or him announcing he's throwing his hat into the ring.
I'm pulling for Michael K. Williams. Considering that he's expressed interest, I really hope he gets it. He's just the kind of actor who can be charismatic and downright terrifying all at once, which I think would be a great counterpoint to the grim and gritty Aquaman we've got already.
I'm pretty excited for this film. Hoping for a nice revenge story with a touch of Lovecraftian horror to it, and considering Wan's background, I think he can do a great job. If the studio get their crap together and let him...
Update on the script so far.
It isn't done but Will Beall is working out the script with Geoff Johns and James Wan.
He talked about the setting:
edited 16th Aug '16 1:04:00 PM by Halberdier17
Aquaman reportedly starts filming sometime this year in Australia, according to one news outlet.
James Wan teasing Aquaman things.◊
He is in Amalfi Italy on vacation.
James Wan on the tone and style.
I guess I need to start posting stuff instead of just editing them into the OP.
Thanks for doing that for me.
Wow. A director who's known for movies where people hack off their own limbs and bowel-loosening supernatural terror is going to have the most positive take on the DCCU so far. That is funny.
edited 20th Oct '16 8:26:40 AM by nervmeister
James Wan brings a high energy to everything he does, including his horror movies, where you'd think high energy would be the opposite of what you wanted.
You should see 7 Fast 7 Furious. That movie is nuts.
Aquaman will probably have some IMAX shots
Warner Bros. and IMAX extend their partnership for at least 12 additional movies.
Not a bad direction, but I was hoping for something that'd focus more on Arthur as a King. Or maybe some Lovecraft type deep sea horror .
Or both. Aquaman races to stop a terrorist group that turn out to be a cult of the Great Old ones.
Don't forget James Wan also said he definitely wants to bring a horror element, and talked about the weird creatures unda da sea. So yeah, there'll probably be some lovecraftian stuff.
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