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From YMMV.Mario Vs Donkey Kong:
I feel this goes under a separate trope, but I don't know which. Sequelitis? They Changed It, Now It Sucks!?
Since it's talking about later installments, Contested Sequel?
Move it under Contested Sequel.
I plan on adding the Diamondemption entry later today. Now here's a question - if one side of a conflict is invalidated by Word of God, but the debate still rages on afterward, does it still count as Broken Base? I'm thinking of this entry, Also from BrokenBase.Steven Universe, in particular, emphasis mine:
Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 7th 2019 at 5:09:32 AM
Maybe its a case of Death of the Author?
From YMMV.Animal Crossing:
So is the Diamond entry going to be added to Steven Universe or not?
I just added it. Only got to my laptop recently, so sorry about that.
Point 1 sounds like Contested Sequel, not sure about point 2, points 3, 4, and 5 sound like they were written pre-release.
1 and 3/4 sound like Contested Sequel, 2 could stay with some rewriting to emphasize that the cave system is divisive, 5 should be deleted as it's speculative troping.
1 is actually a case of Contested Sequel, 3 and 4 sound like they were added pre-release (the former even refers to it as the 3DS Pikmin rather than its final title, Hey Pikmin), and 5 is just Speculative Troping over a rumor for a game that hasn't been properly announced yet. Though 2 can be kept since the caves were a divisive addition in Pikmin 2.
I'm not where I can go through and clean and at the moment, so I thought I'd drop by and say that the Broken Base and Base-Breaking Character Discussion Dates sandbox is in desperate need of an update. Many of the "TBA" works have been given release dates, and in most cases the works with actual release dates have already passed and should be removed from the page.
This was just added to BrokenBase.Steven Universe:
I shouldn't have to explain why I got rid of it.
Pretty sure Zux already got it.
Hey quick question; is Lily Orchard using a persona while doing her videos, or is it just her actual thoughts? Because the Broken Base section of Lily Orchard seems to dip too much into her real life.
Isn't her portfolio just opinion pieces? If she's using a persona then I can only imagine that she's using it for comedic purposes.
My take on the examples:
From YMMV.Yoshis Island:
I agree with your take. I'd add to the second bullet point that it's not the trope: it's just a question posed for anyone to read and answer if they feel like it. If you're going to be a Broken Base entry, you need to be an actual example of a Broken Base, not a random question that anyone who reads it can agree or disagree with at their leisure.
This seems to be a common misuse for Broken Base: instead of describing how the base is broken, a question is posed asking if someone or some situation is 'either/or'. Either/Or questions are not the trope; they're barely above the level of a 'what if...?' discussion.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Sep 21st 2019 at 1:50:43 PM
The only one I'll try and make a case for is the comment deletion example, since she'd apparently deleted even people simply expressing their own thoughts on her SU video, just as long as the comment disagreed with her— no matter how respectfully. I don't think that one is calling her a snowflake at all, it's just being blunt about the fact that she does indeed heavily moderate her comments and one reaction to her doing so. If anything, it should be deleted because the people who complain about that probably aren't her fans at all, not because it's accusing her of anything.
I'm pretty sure we have a rule against YMMV and Audience Reactions for creators. Per Creator Page Guidelines:
With this rule in mind, I think the entire Broken Base entry needs to go. They're clearly about the creator and not the work.
That's also fair.
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