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Oct 13th 2016 at 6:18:44 PM

I've transferred the Laconic and Quotes. The Playing with is all misuse, so better started from scratch. The Es thing I don't know what to do with. Should I submit the former three to Cut List?

If someone can take car of the Es page, we can redirect it and finally clean this up once and for all!

Berrenta Time Cat from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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Oct 13th 2016 at 6:29:42 PM

The three subpages in question are already axed. We'll need someone versed in Spanish to look over the Es page, and see if we can adjust it accordingly.

For those wanting to help out with wicks, here's a courtesy link.

edited 13th Oct '16 7:56:39 PM by Berrenta

Oct 13th 2016 at 8:16:19 PM

Replaced all Trivia entries. Most others that aren't in-universe can be axed.

If examples are in page descriptions, can we keep them since it's a discussed trope?

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Oct 14th 2016 at 1:07:08 AM

Trope descriptions or work descriptions?

ME!? You want ME to be the director of your Christmas play?!
Oct 14th 2016 at 12:31:16 PM

Trope descriptions. That is where the concept of creators not caring is brought up. Should those be axed, redivided, or what?

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Oct 14th 2016 at 1:00:13 PM

I would rewrite them to make sure that it's obvious that it requires Word of God. Judge it on a case-by-case basis, though, because if it says "This trope is where we put all our complaining" or something along thse lines, just remove it.

By the way, for some reason, They Just Didn't Care isn't showing up as an alternate title for Creator's Apathy.

edited 14th Oct '16 1:26:25 PM by TropesForever

ME!? You want ME to be the director of your Christmas play?!
Berrenta Time Cat from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Time Cat
Oct 15th 2016 at 7:59:25 AM

[up] They Just Didn't Care not showing up that way is a known issue.

GnomeTitan from Scandinavia Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Oct 19th 2016 at 8:13:40 AM

I just noticed that the last paragraph of the description of Creator's Apathy reads "All examples that are not In-Universe require Word of God confirming that the creators didn't care."

The part about not caring seems to have carried over from the old name. Wouldn't it be better if it said:

"... that the creators were suffering from apathy"?

edited 19th Oct '16 8:13:55 AM by GnomeTitan

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Oct 19th 2016 at 12:53:23 PM

I don't think we have to change it, it means basically the same thing. "Suffering from apathy" just makes it sound like a disease.

ME!? You want ME to be the director of your Christmas play?!
Oct 20th 2016 at 12:59:25 PM

From the trope description of Artist Disillusionment:

True artist disillusionment is when the artist just isn't having any fun at all any more and is making no secret of that fact. They've given up being a SlaveToPR, and as such are rude and dismissive in public appearances and interviews, snap the head off fans who manage to fray their one remaining nerve, and generally come across as a grouchy, impatient jackass. Their work may even begin to suffer. [[TheyJustDidntCare They just don't care anymore.]] And this lack of caring tends to express itself through insults towards their audience and fans.

Would this be an example where They Just Didn't Care can be replaced with Creator's Apathy, since it is discussing the concept of a creator losing interest? Or in the absence of their admitting it, would Stopped Caring be a better replacement?

Karxrida Richie Lich from Darkness within Darkness Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Richie Lich
Oct 20th 2016 at 1:00:18 PM

I think Creator's Apathy might work there.

edited 20th Oct '16 1:00:49 PM by Karxrida

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
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Richie Lich
Oct 20th 2016 at 1:03:00 PM

Note to self: think before posting so you don't have to make edits that come too late.

That also works I guess.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
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Oct 20th 2016 at 3:09:09 PM

I think Creator's Apathy might work there. I don't think we've changed the definition to "The creator admits they don't care", it's still "The creator doesn't care", but we only accept examples where they've admitted it so the trope isn't used for complaining. If it's just speaking generally, it seems okay. And Stopped Caring doesn't really work because it seems to be about life in general.

ME!? You want ME to be the director of your Christmas play?!
Oct 20th 2016 at 5:35:25 PM

Revised Artist Disillusionment entry to Creator's Apathy since it discusses the concept. With that, any examples of They Just Didn't Care used as accusations are to be cut as opposed to replaced.

Oct 22nd 2016 at 11:58:27 AM

I've finished removing They Just Didn't Care links, all that remain are locked pages and ghost links, see here.

I'll flag a mod and we are done here.

edited 22nd Oct '16 11:58:39 AM by Ferot_Dreadnaught

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