Condemned by History is a problem trope for many reasons. It leads to edit warring and confusion over what qualifies. In this thread we'll look for bad examples, and look for feedback. Here are the guidelines for this trope:
- The franchise has to be truly popular and loved at first. Things that are So Bad, It's Horrible don't count.
- Simply losing popularity isn't enough. We need to see an actual backlash, with liking it being considered bizarre. Otherwise, every not-so-famous film or concluded television series would be here.
Let's go!
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 16th 2024 at 4:23:01 AM
Todd in the Shadows seems to have reviewed him in his 2021 Best Songs review, after MGK changed genres, so nope.
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Plus you can only make creepy comments about your fans and then sweep them under the rug for so long
Plus you know that the punk pop elder statesmen like De Longe and Armstrong are just waiting for the right time to turn on him considering how much their fabases were never on board in the firstplace
Edited by The_MJP on Mar 26th 2022 at 5:35:19 AM
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They haven't reached Creed or Puddle of Mudd levels of hated or mockery yet. Aaron Lewis is a whiny asshole, yes, but nobody is hating on the band or their music, just him, and he still gets coverage from places like Fox News for what it's worth, which is more than what we can say about Scott Stapp or Wes Scantlin.
Is the key reason disqualifying Yandere Simulator the fact that it's still technically in development? I've heard a lot of horror stories from ex-volunteers and fans about the developer and quite a few jokes made at the game's expense.
There's so much I wish I could take back.The Milli Vanilli example got removed from CondemnedByHistory.Music by ~Scifimaster 92 with the reason:
My question is, is this the majority opinion? I think Milli Vanilli are still remembered more for being lip-synchers rather than victims of the music industry. Requesting more opinions.
Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallThis is on Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets:
- Condemned by History: Upon its release, the film adaptation was almost universally praised as an Even Better Sequel for its darker tone, improved effects, and better performances by the child actors compared to the first film. As the later films got even darker and improved on the other aspects, people began to see this film as more tame and repetitive of the first.
Cut it. It seems to be simply "the following sequels are even better than the better sequel". At most this would be "Seinfeld" Is Unfunny, if anything.
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Funny you should mention that, the entry was
"Seinfeld" Is Unfunny; it got changed to Condemned by History for no reason.
I was under the impression that it had already been decided, back when the trope was still known as Deader Than Disco, that Milli Vanilli did not qualify due to many still remembering them nostalgically despite the scandal, and that they were more an example of being Overshadowed by Controversy than anything else.
Edited by Scifimaster92 on Apr 3rd 2022 at 10:26:05 AM
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That needs to be reverted using this thread as a reference.
Edit: Done reverting.
Edited by alnair20aug93 on Apr 4th 2022 at 7:55:13 PM
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When this trope went through TRS it was expanded a bit—if it was mostly loved and is now mostly hated within its niche it can now qualify.
What the actual fuck.
I don't know if that's CBH or Values Dissonance but either way that's fucked up and I sincerely hope it really isn't practiced anymore.
I think it's definitely (an extremely fucked up case of) Values Dissonance. I don't think it was widely accepted enough worldwide to be Condemned by History.
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I'd go with Values Dissonance over Condemned by History too, the Qing Dynasty (who were Manchus who did not do foot binding) even made efforts to end the practice as it was alien and unwanted by them.
"Grandmaster Combat, son!"Yeah, it's not like the population that did the footbinding all suddenly changed their minds, it was generations later and a cultural shift.
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Taichibana-san are you really a traitor?