As can I.
Ha Morgenthaler, I just wanted to open the same thread about Bikini Bar and Family-Friendly Stripper covering the same ground (no nudity in strip scenes where one would expect it).
Merge.
Though Bikini Bar may be the healthier trope, I advocate for going with Family-Friendly Stripper since the non-nude strip scene can happen anywhere.
edited 2nd Jun '16 9:00:59 PM by eroock
Looked at them, didn't spot a notable difference. A few examples overlap, but not that many. Then again, they're not particularly large pages. Merge sounds good.
Family-Friendly Stripper sounds more accurate as a name. Just Bikini Bar doesn't say quite the same thing.
Check out my fanfiction!Yeah Family-Friendly Stripper is the better name, Or Non Nude Stripper.
Bikini Bars usually refer to Fanservice with a Smile too.
edited 2nd Jun '16 1:24:48 PM by Memers
I can see the argument for Family-Friendly Stripper being the better name.
Made a crowner for the merger proposal.
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"It's hooked.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportMerge the two tropes.
Well, this is looking clear. Calling for the merge.
Okay, so I went over both pages and merged the description and examples in Sandbox.Family Friendly Stripper, axing everything that was zero context (or just plain misuse). How does it look?
edited 16th Jun '16 7:36:18 AM by Morgenthaler
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"The sandbox trope description, copied from Bikini Bar, mentions that "topless (let alone fully nude) ... practices are commonplace in Real Life." This may not be true everywhere, especially in the time periods shows may be set in.
I don't think it's really necessary to include a note about period pieces in the description. If someone shoehorns an example of a Family-Friendly Stripper when there shouldn't even be nude strippers around to begin with, I think that's just plain misuse.
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"^ I would merge first and second paragraph. Usually the second paragraph is the one informing the trope at hand. Third one is too late.
Ok, did that. I'll give it three more days for other comments to come in before I swap in the sandbox and start moving wicks.
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"Done, now there's just wick cleaning for Bikini Bar. Courtesy link.
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"Starred per request.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanSomething weird is going on with the redirects. The "Related" page for Family-Friendly Stripper is not showing Bikini Bar as a redirect; merely as an ordinary link. (The redirect is working just fine, though.) Additionally, the other redirect, Family Friendly Strip Club is still showing as a redirect on the Bikini Bar "Related" page, rather than the Family-Friendly Stripper page, even though it has been fixed to point to FFS. I tried a null edit on the latter, and it didn't fix the problem.
(I did finish cleaning Family Friendly Strip Club while I was there, so now we only have Bikini Bar to deal with.)
eta: Since FFSClub was cleaned, I tried breaking the redirect and then restoring it, and now it's not showing up as a redirect on either of the other related pages!
edited 30th Nov '16 12:23:21 PM by Xtifr
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.^ Yes, that's a bug that showed up after the latest update. I've reported it, but dunno if anything concrete has been done about it. More recent redirect edits seem to work just fine from my end.
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"Wick cleaning is now finished. Leaving a note in discussion.
...And done, so closing.
edited 2nd Dec '16 11:31:36 AM by Berrenta
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There is a similar issue here as the ones with Domestic Abuse + Domestic Abuser and Slave Galley + Galley Slave. Namely, both Family-Friendly Stripper and Bikini Bar are the same trope for when a work wants to depict a strip club or similar venue of adult entertainment but for whatever reason (network content rules, creative decisions) shy away from depicting actual stripping or nudity. The only difference between the two is that the former approaches it as a character trope and the latter as a setting trope. Which is kinda redundant, given that strippers generally perform in, well, strip clubs.
To add more confusion, Family Friendly Strip Club is in fact a redirect to Bikini Bar. There's also a redirect for Strip Club, which is not the same thing—You Can Leave Your Hat On is about stripping in general, though that isn't necessarily confined to night clubs.
Given that I don't see a meaningful distinction between the two, I think they should be merged. Between the two tropes Bikini Bar is the healthier one with 107 wicks and 289 inbounds, whereas Family-Friendly Stripper has 24 wicks and 117 inbounds.
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"