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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1: May 10th 2016 at 11:29:37 PM

There's a thread for the other two.

Daredevil I knew a little bit from Marvel Ultimate Alliance and the Affleck film. Jessica Jones I'd heard of on comic book forums, and Luke Cage from Web of Shadows. After seeing the first two series, I'm really excited for this one. Even better that they'll eventually crossover into The Defenders.

As such, I'm curious to find out what exactly can threaten him in this universe.

edited 22nd May '16 6:27:09 AM by Soble

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#2: May 11th 2016 at 12:47:19 AM

Concussions, if JJ is to be believed.

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#3: May 11th 2016 at 1:07:05 AM

Shotguns. Blocking the pellets with his unbreakable skin wouldn't matter, the sheer impact of the shot does severe internal damage that, thanks to said unbreakable skin, would be extremely difficult to properly treat. And he does get taken down by a shotgun in JJ.

Gases, poisons, toxins.

Explosives for the same reasons as shotguns - impact and internal damage. Though he gives zero shits when he gets exploded in JJ, so that one is unlikely to work.

Fire can still burn his eyes, probably.

edited 11th May '16 2:00:07 AM by Luminosity

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#4: May 11th 2016 at 2:29:59 AM

The shotgun was point blank, though.

edited 11th May '16 2:30:31 AM by 3of4

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#5: May 11th 2016 at 7:20:43 AM

Fire can still burn his eyes, probably.

I think especially bad (like, several times the amount it would take to kill a normal person) electricity, chemicals, radiation, fire (like, Class D flames) etc. can kill, or at least severely injure, him.

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#6: May 11th 2016 at 11:23:39 AM

Basically, think of him as a guy wearing an invisible suit of plate armor at all times. Yeah, it's tough, but it doesn't make him invulnerable.

It also has its own set of drawbacks too, mainly the fact that there are many forms of medical attention he cannot receive.

edited 11th May '16 11:24:39 AM by TobiasDrake

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#7: May 11th 2016 at 12:56:07 PM

[up]In his original 70's comic run (which I have actually read, shockingly enough), Cage had increased overal bone and muscle density, meaning that internal damage wasn't much of a factor for him (his insides were basically or nearly as tough as his outsides) - though bullets could still cause him to bruise, even though they didn't pierce his skin.

The obvious downside of increased density is that it made him a hell of a lot heavier, which I think made him a lot more vulnerable to drowning (though an upside of that is that dropping himself through the roof/floor to get at criminals on a lower floor made for one hell of a Dynamic Entry cool).

He could also be blinded with gas/acid — even if it doesn't cause actual physical damage to him, it'd still hurt like hell, and he'd have to rinse his eyes under a sink or something before he could see again.

edited 11th May '16 12:57:42 PM by EvaUnit01

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#8: Jul 24th 2016 at 10:03:56 PM

I figured it might be a good time to share this, which came out a couple of days ago:

Fun trailer, and it gives a pretty good idea of what it's like for a muggle to fight an Implacable Man.

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#9: Jul 24th 2016 at 10:22:01 PM

Why'd he tear off that car door. Seems kinda rude. Beating the crap out of bad guys is one thing, but think of their insurance premiums.

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#10: Jul 25th 2016 at 10:33:07 AM

[up][up]Best use of "Shimmy Ya" Ive seen in a trailer thus far. cool

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#12: Aug 9th 2016 at 6:48:02 AM

edited 9th Aug '16 6:48:46 AM by comicwriter

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#13: Aug 9th 2016 at 6:49:33 AM

[up]You forgot the ending brackets.

Edit* it's fixed now.

edited 9th Aug '16 6:50:17 AM by Halberdier17

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#14: Aug 9th 2016 at 8:33:14 AM

The headband? The bracelets? Those absolute madmen actually did it! [tup]

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#15: Aug 9th 2016 at 10:53:26 AM

@1:24. Hate to be that guy.

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#16: Aug 9th 2016 at 7:15:23 PM

I don't usually let myself get this hyped for things like this, but...holy shit, this show looks awesome. Pardon me while I go invent a time machine so I can travel forward to September and not have to wait.

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#17: Aug 9th 2016 at 7:37:10 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing how they work with Cottonmouth.

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#18: Aug 9th 2016 at 7:44:41 PM

[up][up] Call me when you're finished (but before you leave). I've got some stuff I want to skip ahead to, too.

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#19: Aug 9th 2016 at 7:45:44 PM

You got it.

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#20: Aug 9th 2016 at 9:32:18 PM

So I said this on the Marvel thread and I'll say it here as well:

Luke has these guys pretty badly outmatched, and he's on the low end of super powered people (I believe Jessica is actually a little stronger in the long run, though he has the superior durability since he's far more bullet proof).

So Matt went up against two conspiracies (one with Zombie Ninjas), and Jessica was up against someone who (for most of the series at least) rendered her superior strength useless.

Who's gonna challenge Luke. To the average Mooks he may as well be the Hulk or Thor.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Aug 9th 2016 at 10:04:58 PM

The thing is, there are some foes he just can't hit. Like Mariah Dillard in the show appears to be a politician, but since we know who she is based on, I bet she's a corrupt one. How do you solve a corrupt politician? Not by hitting them, certainly.

And like the trailer said: Luke may be bulletproof, but Harlem isn't.

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#22: Aug 10th 2016 at 9:35:12 AM

[up] That seems to be the core of the story. How much of a difference in improving a community can hitting people actually do? Stopping crime or dealing with the Doctor are problems that can be solved with physical force. Socio-economic issues not so much.

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#23: Aug 10th 2016 at 3:51:30 PM

No to mention Luke isn't 100% invulnerable. He was wounded badly in Jessica Jones.

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#24: Aug 10th 2016 at 5:02:30 PM

In the comics, Cottonmouth had something of a Charles Atlas Superpower thing going on and could fight Luke Cage to a standstill somehow (or Luke Cage would just demolish him). His sharpened teeth could occasionally pierce Luke's flesh too.

Just having Cottonmouth fight with knuckledusters also tends to help.

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#25: Aug 10th 2016 at 5:42:12 PM

I actually like the idea of a hero who's pretty much physically invulnerable to 95% of everything the bad guys can throw at him, because it forces the writers to get more creative with the dramatic stakes. There's a lot more ways to beat a hero than just hurting him. As they implied in the trailer - maybe they can't hurt him, but they can sure as hell hurt Harlem.

And while Luke is probably more than capable of brute-forcing his way past most physical confrontations, would that physical confrontations were all that was required to clean up a crime-ridden neighborhood.

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