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#23551: Aug 10th 2018 at 11:26:34 PM

[up] Syncretism in the context we are using is basically the mixture of myths and religions. In this case, there are a few characters in the Fate universe who are indeed known under different names in different cultures. There is evidence of this happening in real life, incorporating different gods/figures and cultural practices into a religion. Even King Arthur's has a few Celtic along with Christian elements if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention the overlap with Hinduism and Buddhism (I think the latter was originally an offshoot of the former, but I could be wrong).

TLDR: I don't know exactly how many, but yes, there are gods/figures that are actually the same.

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#23552: Aug 10th 2018 at 11:55:09 PM

^^ Not really weird or Japanese specific or anything. Like from what I've been told, the Egyptians and Greeks considered Thoth and Hermes to be the same guy. And the Romans kind of absorbed local religions by going 'Oh hey your deities? They're ours too, they just have different names! Let's combine them together and then everyone can be happy. So no need to fight!'

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#23553: Aug 10th 2018 at 11:55:26 PM

Aren't the Babylonians aliens too? Ea supposedly made the planet habitable and Tiamat was compared to a terraforming ship, plus they apparently had pretty advanced space ships.

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#23554: Aug 10th 2018 at 11:58:58 PM

[up][up] Yeah the Greek/Roman thing is the only example I know of that.

Zeus/Jupiter, Poseidon/Neptune, Ares/Mars, Potato/Tomato.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 10th 2018 at 11:59:27 AM

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#23555: Aug 11th 2018 at 12:06:04 AM

There is also Amon which is the name of both an Egyptian god and a demon of the Ars Goetia, which we kind of see in Camelot. Christianity back in the day had a track record of making other gods into demons and whatnot.

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#23556: Aug 11th 2018 at 12:09:34 AM

Isn't that the general idea of the Abrahamic religions? Either they're fake or they're demons fooling people.

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#23557: Aug 11th 2018 at 12:09:56 AM

Huh so that’s why they call any other religion followers of the Devil & what not.

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#23558: Aug 11th 2018 at 12:11:42 AM

Well, they were perfectly happy to turn local gods into great kings of the past and so on as well. And the Ars Goetia is not exactly a genuine religious text.

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#23559: Aug 11th 2018 at 12:14:09 AM

My favorite example of the demonization thing is Beelzebub, whose name means Lord of the Flies. Because it may have been a pun on the name Ba'al Zebul, which means Lord of the Manor. Witness how I have deconstructed your name into an insult!

And just to drive home how much the Romans did this shit, besides being Hermes and Thoth Mercury was also Odin and the Irish Lugh, god of having max skill ranks in everything. Heck, one of the reasons the empire considered the Jews such a pain is that they wouldn't go along with the idea that their god was Jupiter under an alias.

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#23560: Aug 11th 2018 at 12:20:20 AM

Such no fun allowed folks. tongue

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#23561: Aug 11th 2018 at 12:22:40 AM

As fun as it is to shout ROME!!!! the Romans really were the real-life Empire.

The only question is did they have a Sidious & a Darth Vader?

[up][up] Huh you learn something everyday.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 11th 2018 at 12:22:48 PM

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#23562: Aug 11th 2018 at 12:22:59 AM

I just saw Wu's concept art from the mats and I want to die

Wada is still lazy as hell and just photoshops her old work when coming up with new outfits is something I will forever respect her for

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#23563: Aug 11th 2018 at 12:57:09 AM

I think Passionlip got her FGO art instead of photoshop.

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#23565: Aug 11th 2018 at 2:04:19 AM

You think syncretism is weird, look up the Proto-Indo-European religion sometime (what little we know about it). Long story short, there's a believable-ish argument to be made that Susanoo and Thor descend from the same religious figure, and so do Izanagi and Orpheus. There's even a Celtic sky god with some similarities to Zeus, all because the PIE religion spread across greater Asia.

Edited by RedSavant on Aug 11th 2018 at 5:06:40 AM

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#23566: Aug 11th 2018 at 3:06:25 AM

So it seems that what happened with whole Nyarly thing is that when BB was setting up whole ServanFest, she got curious just how good Chaldea's celestial body observation is so she went into the Hawaiian branch and used their telescope to observe space and came across the whole "stare into the abyss and the abyss stares back", and ended up synching up with a devil from outer space. Also even though she got synched up, she wasn't overwritten, which is why she is still MoonCancer.

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#23567: Aug 11th 2018 at 3:09:12 AM

Well yeah. Because her and Nyarly are trolls who want to torment humanity For the Evulz. They are perfectly made for each other.

Painting the world in Naughty Tentacles isn't fun when you can instead break them mentally one at a time.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Aug 11th 2018 at 3:13:06 AM

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#23568: Aug 11th 2018 at 3:09:31 AM

In other news, I decided to try for another ritual of 5 Summon Tickets and 1x 10 roll...

And before I get to even the 10-roll...

Also guys, if I hit 'Epilogue', will I still be able to muck around with the Summer Event?

Edited by ChrisX on Aug 11th 2018 at 6:32:09 PM

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#23569: Aug 11th 2018 at 4:33:17 AM

Quick notes 4

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#23570: Aug 11th 2018 at 4:34:40 AM

Servant Summer Festival quick notes 4

Blackbeard: β€œMaking doujinshi? You’re just an amateur who only arrived at ServaFes, stop kidding me… it’s not a joke, huh. For some reason, the scent of the battlefield yet lingers on Master-dono. Something must have happened. For example, selling off all 10 years’ worth of your otaku goods in order to participate in ServaFes.”
This is a reference to Nasu selling off 10 years' worth of otaku goods he had to save himself and Tsukihime from bankruptcy so he could go on to sell it at Comiket, and now he's come full circle to making a story about selling stuff at not!comiket.

EDIT: Assassin'd but whatever I'll just leave this here

Edited by Nouct on Aug 11th 2018 at 4:34:41 AM

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#23571: Aug 11th 2018 at 4:43:23 AM

For the curious, you'll need these amounts of points to unlock the extra stuff from the quests in the Hotel:

Red - 400k Blue - 300k Yellow - 500k

Fortunately, with the bonus C Es it's not too hard, though man, I wish the C Es weren't 12 cost each. I don't have that much space to spare!

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#23572: Aug 11th 2018 at 5:57:40 AM

So in Nasu lore..all gods are derived from the same being?

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#23573: Aug 11th 2018 at 6:00:23 AM

This summer event feels a bit weird due to the length of it, I've been grinding a fair bit over the last 2 days and I'm sitting at 400K in one set of points.

I know that's probably ahead of schedule, but its still feels slow.

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#23574: Aug 11th 2018 at 6:03:10 AM

They're derived from specific beings. The Twelve Pillars were the Ayylmaos that became the Olympians/Romans who are their incarnations/Bunreis.

There were native Gods alongside the Twelve Pillars, but most were butchered by Altera.

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