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Oct 23rd 2021 at 7:32:13 AM

Black@ You say that until that one female to male is Fa Mulan.

Gacha Is A Lie.
Oct 23rd 2021 at 7:32:32 AM

[up][up]Yeah, there’s precedent with Fujiwara no Takako being randomly revealed to have been formerly Daji and later Tamamo no Mae.

Edited by Comun on Oct 23rd 2021 at 7:32:57 AM

TPPR10 Gremlin Scientist from Olympia Relationship Status: Robosexual
Gremlin Scientist
Oct 23rd 2021 at 7:38:04 AM

[up]Even though Nobunaga also says Umu.

Gacha Is A Lie.
Oct 23rd 2021 at 7:38:48 AM

[up][up][up][up][up] Like Skadi? :P

As above, so below.
TitanJump Beast of Burden from the Grand Grail Relationship Status: Singularity
Beast of Burden
Oct 23rd 2021 at 7:47:22 AM

Event: Okay, Fuuma is the perfect star-support for Jane when doing these free-quests.

Stars, stars and stars everywhere.

Rule number one in life: Pursue, Persist and Prevail
Oct 23rd 2021 at 7:52:04 AM

Making Fa Mulan a genderswap makes about as much sense as making Uesugi Kenshin one, admittedly, so they might.

Oct 23rd 2021 at 7:56:17 AM

[up]Except for the fact Kenshin might of been female in real life compare to folklore of Fa Mulan.

Gacha Is A Lie.
Oct 23rd 2021 at 8:04:21 AM

Right, but he presented as male for his entire life and that was part of his life experience. Making Kenshin openly female kind of messes with his life story, whatever it was specifically.

Oct 23rd 2021 at 8:18:09 AM

Even though Nobunaga also says Umu.

And Rama. And Ozymandias. And Napoleon. And the list goes on.

Nero isn't even the first Umu Servant. Iskandar was already Umu-ing years before her character was even conceived.

RainehDaze Bubble Singer from Scotland Relationship Status: Mu
Bubble Singer
Oct 23rd 2021 at 8:20:32 AM

Does she use it to excess or something?

"Are you willing to welcome it?"
RebelFalcon Dont mistake my being longwinded for being angry from
Dont mistake my being longwinded for being angry
Oct 23rd 2021 at 8:21:44 AM

...Welp, I can't even say I'm surprised that the forum went in this direction while I was sleeping at this point...

May as well list Foreigner de Molay under Trans Audience Interpretation. I'm surprised that only da Vinci was listed under there atm, but may as well finally as de Molay, Mordred, Astolfo, and any other Servant with Ambiguous Gender Identity under there.

Tried to take a break from TV Tropes. Couldn't even last two days.
Oct 23rd 2021 at 8:23:09 AM

[up][up]I think so. Its almost a verbal tic for her.

Hilarious in enough, Umu is so much part of her character that NA server actually patched the translation so it actually reads umu in subtitles.

Edited by WhirlRX on Oct 23rd 2021 at 11:23:43 AM

Gacha Is A Lie.
Oct 23rd 2021 at 8:32:03 AM

Umu is a regal-sounding "indeed", after all.

TitanJump Beast of Burden from the Grand Grail Relationship Status: Singularity
Beast of Burden
Oct 23rd 2021 at 9:10:19 AM

(Tried something that crossed my mind from reading this...)

"Umu" is a cruel and insane Madness Mantra when said repeatedly in an infinite word-chain of a tongue-twister...

(Says someone who just tried it and didn't make it past ten "Umu" before it escalated into verbal madness/nonsense...)

Edited by TitanJump on Oct 23rd 2021 at 6:26:37 PM

Rule number one in life: Pursue, Persist and Prevail
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
Oct 23rd 2021 at 9:31:50 AM

It's funny how Molay was mostly ignored by fans until they genderbent him.

"No one cared who I was until I became a waifu" - Jacques de Molay 2021

Come and get your burgers!
RainehDaze Bubble Singer from Scotland Relationship Status: Mu
Bubble Singer
Oct 23rd 2021 at 9:32:56 AM

Or: most people didn't care when it was an arcade-exclusive, which means no export and only useful in a bloody arcade.

"Are you willing to welcome it?"
asterism Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
VeryMelon SUPER SOMETHING ELSE!
SUPER SOMETHING ELSE!
Oct 23rd 2021 at 9:43:39 AM

I stopped questioning or being surprised by Fate genderbends a long time ago. It's only surprising when they don't happen.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
Oct 23rd 2021 at 9:44:08 AM

[up][up][up][up] Yea, it definitely had nothing to do with the fact that they were exclusive to a game that is only available in Japan.

[up] Well this one stands out cuz they took Servant that was already released in the game, and then genderbent them.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Oct 23rd 2021 at 12:45:43 PM

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Oct 23rd 2021 at 9:51:50 AM

[up]So the question is did Japanese cared about Arcade Moley?

Gacha Is A Lie.
Oct 23rd 2021 at 10:15:14 AM

Okay, I just chacked the "fairy tale servants". How the hell does Voyager classify as a fairy tale character?

Edit: Oh, the little Prince. Forget I said anything.

Edited by Vito28 on Oct 23rd 2021 at 10:19:32 AM

Oct 23rd 2021 at 10:19:35 AM

I performed my first Double Waver set up.

Is this how Thanos felt with the Infinity Stones?[lol]

Gacha Is A Lie.
TitanJump Beast of Burden from the Grand Grail Relationship Status: Singularity
Beast of Burden
Oct 23rd 2021 at 10:22:01 AM

[up] Who was your Damage-Dealer?

(Aka: The one you put between those two slices of Waver-Bread)

Edited by TitanJump on Oct 23rd 2021 at 7:22:13 PM

Rule number one in life: Pursue, Persist and Prevail
Mami Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Oct 23rd 2021 at 10:35:00 AM

[up]x4 While complaints exist also in the Japanese fandom (because surprised, female fans disatisfied with this year's male servant distribution exist beyond the language barrier) as a whole he's an original servant in a restricted media that barely has a story to show him off. So while he doesn't suffer from the same problem as the English not having translations of his profile he's still going to fall into the obscurity characters like the FSF cast besides Enkidu did where they're not in media easily accessible to the main stream like the game/anime so their fan content is low (seriously, try searching for any FSF content that's not at least one year old that's not just Gilkidu content that has nothing to do with FSF).

Which is why I hate the "Well, nobody talked about him before" Gotcha.

Edited by Mami on Oct 23rd 2021 at 6:35:54 PM

Mandy, my beloved

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