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TitanJump I am Legion from the Grand Grail Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
I am Legion
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:08:03 PM

[up] "Gigantic needles pinning mayflies to a board."

If metaphors are to be used in this case.

[down] True, but one can't deny it was the weakest because the tree hadn't ingrained at all though.

Ivan was more than enough challenge as it was without its powers.

Imagine how the fight would have gone if he had used the Tree as a power-source as well?

Edited by TitanJump on Jul 1st 2020 at 5:11:12 PM

Madness: an author's most magnificent muse and house maid.
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:08:25 PM

Russia got pruned first because we figured the oprikniki had to come from somewhere, nothing to do with the tree having taken root or not.

Jul 1st 2020 at 8:19:28 PM

Edgeface!Twice was exploiting one of Buddhas NP in order to ensure that the only possible timeline outcome is extinction, which does say that yes, the timelines of the kaleidoscope can in fact get such a scenario where it should be pruned thanks to no progress but thanks to QTL is instead the main timeline that all tinelines will follow. Making it a permanent doomed timeline for all timelines on that tree.

Edgeremains!Twice even rants about how humans hadnt progress in that 1000 years despite the QTL for that reason. There was no progress at all, and so instead of just letting things continue he sought to just exterminate every timeline with Buddhas NP.

As long as you know how to exploit QTL you can ensure a scenario where no progress exists and have reality still deem it as the correct path. Manaka tried to do that with Revelations-kun to make the Britain that Arthur would rule by killing everyone else.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 1st 2020 at 8:22:39 AM

RainehDaze Lunar Admin from Scotland Relationship Status: Mu
Lunar Admin
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:22:26 PM

I will be honest, I'm impressed anyone managed to make sense of what the hell was going on in that anime.

Presumably, though, a severely screwed timeline could still keep going if it wasn't foregone.

My kōhai won't leave me alone
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:24:15 PM

Well the good news is that since the Moon Cell exists outside of the Earths jurisdiction of timelines you can just ignore its doomed no matter what, which is why Extella and the anime end with Rin/Hakuno making a world inside it where humans can live alongside NP Cs and servants. Progress may not be possible on earth, but it definitely is on the Moon.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 1st 2020 at 8:26:23 AM

RainehDaze Lunar Admin from Scotland Relationship Status: Mu
Lunar Admin
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:28:11 PM

I'm not even sure things are doomed on Earth in the actual game timeline; the anime attempts to explain it but Extella notes that the actual inhabitants of SE.RA.PH involve people who're still on Earth anyway... and Extra itself didn't end on "and everything is doomed". Magicless sure, bloody vampires, but not doomed.

Though Gilgamesh's ending for CCC cakes the cake of incomprehensible things to do to a virtual world/timeline.

My kōhai won't leave me alone
Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Blue Reflection
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:30:07 PM

There is still an enviromental collapse, a world in war and the heir of the major faction dead and gone.

Edited by Blueace on Jul 1st 2020 at 11:32:14 AM

Jul 1st 2020 at 8:32:39 PM

The planet is literally dying thanks to the Harways botching the ritual that lead to Extra. The Anime revealed thats what lead to it.

And yeah the earth is doomed. Progress cant be made on it, thats why more and more people are leaving the earth to live in the Moon Cell in the end of the Extella games. The planets doomed, but you can just highttail it for a place where the timeline isnt "And then everyone dies".

In doing so people even become immortal as souls since the Moon Cell works similar to the third magic. Thus why Soul!Hakuno doesnt end in a coma when Body!Hakuno dies.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 1st 2020 at 8:33:45 AM

TitanJump I am Legion from the Grand Grail Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
I am Legion
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:35:37 PM

Lostbelt: (Story nodes only)

Wait, wait, wait wait-!

"The Trees of Emptiness extends its roots throughout any planet it's planted on,"

"-Any planet-"

Any!?

... Does that mean the Trees has been planted on other planets as well before coming here to Earth!?

(Incomprehensible possibilities and weird chipmunk-noises)

Was I just dropped another bomb-shell in casual dialog like back with Holmes at the start of this belt?!

(I mean... Does that mean it has nailed down dead-ends of alien timelines as well on other worlds? It can't be humanity, it's only on one planet. So how even-?!)

I'm getting confused...

Madness: an author's most magnificent muse and house maid.
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:39:32 PM

Rhongobongo works similar. It sticks the layer on top of the planet by digging in.

TitanJump I am Legion from the Grand Grail Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
I am Legion
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:45:55 PM

[up] That's not the confusion I'm feeling.

The confusion is about there being other planets in the Fate-verse where there is enough souls to form a timeline an a history of their own for those trees to draw power from.

I wasn't exactly expecting that...

...

Lostbelt: End of Chapter 15. Now looking at the start of Chapter 16.

(Sees the Saber-Node)

(Deep sigh.)

"I hope my Euryale and Fujino are ready for this..."

Madness: an author's most magnificent muse and house maid.
erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:50:30 PM

Man, am I the only one who feels the Lostbelt arc is going to end in a copout? The stakes feel too high and the damage is starting sound unfixable.

Copyright? Plz, I'm a troper.
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:50:41 PM

Fate earth has interacted with aliens before. Having something like that be a thing already isnt a surprise.

RainehDaze Lunar Admin from Scotland Relationship Status: Mu
Lunar Admin
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:51:29 PM

Yeah? The exact wording for the Foreign God is like... God of a Foreign Star or something. Honestly, for various reasons I think they're tied to Velber, which does have ties to other worlds; the White Titan started off on another planet.

My kōhai won't leave me alone
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:53:01 PM

And we know Rhongobongo was going to store a Camelot figurine set filled with people inside itself. So in that respect the Trees work in the opposite, projecting outwards instead of inwards.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 1st 2020 at 8:53:23 AM

TitanJump I am Legion from the Grand Grail Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
I am Legion
Jul 1st 2020 at 8:59:21 PM

Well I need some time to think about this part.

(While waiting for the AP)

...

Chapter 15 managed to tug in my heart-strings quite a bit though.

Quite a bit.

Signs of good writing.

Madness: an author's most magnificent muse and house maid.
deludedmusings Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Jul 1st 2020 at 9:12:23 PM

Maintenance, were we jumping straight into something else? Or just prep maintenance?

Holding a grudge is allowing someone to live inside your head rent free.
RainehDaze Lunar Admin from Scotland Relationship Status: Mu
Lunar Admin
Jul 1st 2020 at 9:14:28 PM

2-hour maint on NA, yeah. It was announced yesterday.

My kōhai won't leave me alone
TPPR10 The Smug Returns from Out of Nowhere Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
The Smug Returns
Jul 1st 2020 at 9:41:10 PM

@Extra stuff: Twice was already playing rather dodgy game when thinking that The Apocalypse Brings Out the Best in People. And while yes, war has brought advancement in different things, just creating a war and hoping that it would do more good than harm is really flawed from the start.

Now with a smugness slider
Nouct Probably overthinking this post from Studying abroad Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
DarkHunter from New Mexico
Jul 1st 2020 at 10:48:46 PM

Fate earth has interacted with aliens before.

Alien beings we know exist in the Nasuverse:

The TYPES.

The Velber.

The Foreign God.

That one civilization that Gilgamesh and Hakuno ran away to in one ending of Fate/Extra CCC.

The gods the Foreigner Servants wind up channeling.

Whoever/whatever the hell made the Moon Cell (though I have been wondering if maybe the Moon Cell is an alternative possibility to TYPE-Moon himself manifesting).

Edited by DarkHunter on Jul 1st 2020 at 11:49:52 AM

Jul 1st 2020 at 10:50:00 PM

The Olympians being alien mecha.

Nouct Probably overthinking this post from Studying abroad Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Probably overthinking this post
Altris Exit, pursued by a bag Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Exit, pursued by a bag
Jul 1st 2020 at 10:54:17 PM

And dialogue from Zepar has a potential double meaning in regards to an aliens descending when Sefar attacked, considering he pointed out an alien God descending like Raum wants to unleash in Salem failed back then.

And the Eo R all have some clues to the Lostbelts beyond the "Fiction becoming Reality" theme.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 1st 2020 at 10:57:10 AM


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