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I'll have to agree with Raineh for once, not every NPC we meet needs to be a heroic spirit. I'm already desperate for all the actual heroic spirit NP Cs as well as the ones in other mediums they've been sitting on as is.
Also it's kind of nice how Holmes interlude was a chance for them to finally build up on the short stories.
Lol at Qin being salty and petty, for an old man he's remarkably childish
Edited by Mami on Jun 29th 2020 at 3:42:45 PM
I've heard that Reines' interlude references one anecdote where Zhuge Liang send Sima Yi women's clothing as a present. I also heard that Sigurd's interlude has Siegfried explain that he cannot use the Tarnkappe as a Saber.
Edited by TPPR10 on Jun 29th 2020 at 5:53:34 PM
Yes, Sima Yi didn't immediately participate in the war, so Zhuge Liang gifted him a set of woman clothes as a way of calling him pussy, and that's why it's registered on the Thrones of Heroes that Sima Yi is ok with having a female vessel.
It feels like there's a lot to unpack there.
Zhuang sounds like a dick.
Also these are the hoops we're jumping to justify this huh...
Zhuge definitely seems like a dick. When Sima calls him out on this, Zhuge actually appears for the time ever to say fuck you with an expression that most definitely doesn't belong in Waver's face.
What the fuck...
Zhuge Liang's Heated Gamer Moment
That face has appeared before, but the context for that was when senpai Iskandar finally noticed him.
Pink-haired William Tell; what could have been if Takahashi wasn't a COWARD (part of fanart might be nsfw)
the usefulness of Chaldea's writer squad for editing your essay
Edited by Nouct on Jun 29th 2020 at 8:52:57 AM
a summary of Qin's interlude
I've always known Qin was prone to shameless awfulness while not necessarily being a bad person but this takes the fucking cake. What's with male rulers and being shameless fucking potential traitors?????
the Avicebron and Dumas one sent me LOL
Edited by Mami on Jun 29th 2020 at 5:06:44 PM
I find it honestly refreshing to have a character like that every now and then, someone who isn't appeased just with the "Chaldean/MC power of friendship and determination" and deep down still wants to interfere and take matters into their own hands. Sure, it's scary in context, but it creates diversity in the ocean of Servants.
And lol, it took me a while to remember Amakusa. Guess my mind's full of traitor Holmes theories.
"Holy schieze...This "walking volcano" guy is huge!"
x2 Oh I definitely appreciate. A lot of times characters with morally gray mindsets are either hyped up so much their awfulness isn't apparent, said awfulness is swept under the rug, or they just go full evil for them.
Its kind of nice to see Qin sit comfortable in that line, even if he's an ass for it.
Edited by Mami on Jun 29th 2020 at 5:19:18 PM
I wonder if Arjuna Alter will get his own interlude to reflect on being an LB king or if he'll piggyback another interlude like Skadi did for Napoleon's.
Really, I like how Moriarty is absolutely and definitely evil, but also on our side because humanity is necessary and he didn't see what liking someone would do coming.
The woman's clothing thing about Sima Yi most likely did not actually happen since it was a Romance of the Three Kingdoms addition, but there is an interesting background behind it nonetheless.
Zhuge Liang's final battle was the battle of the Wu Zhang Plains, which he led as strategist even though he was extremely sick at the time (it's believed that he was exhausted from overworking himself as Prime Minister of Shu-Han and leading the army against Wei all the time). Understanding that he did not have a lot of time left to live, he was uncharacteristingly hasty in his battle plans, and Sima Yi, who led the opposing army and having long been Zhuge Liang's rival, noticed that and deduced that his opponent was on death's bed. Therefore, he decided to favor a defensive strategy and not buy the openings that the Shu-Han army gave him, ignoring the taunts that were made at his expense as well. One of these taunts was Zhuge Liang sending him women's clothing.
As Sima Yi and Zhuge Liang both deduced, Zhuge Liang died later in the battle. Having understood that Sima Yi would not fall for his taunts, Zhuge Liang ordered his troops to make a discrete, orderly retreat upon his death, which Sima Yi would undoubtedly notice and try to stop them, at which point the Shu-Han army was to feign a counter-attack and place a manequin dressed in Zhuge Liang's clothes on a nearby hill, which would terrify Sima Yi into thinking that he had just fallen into Zhuge Liang's trap and pull back his troops immediately. Thanks to this final stratagem, the Shu-Han army successfully retreated from the battlefield without heavy losses.
Edited by Resileafs on Jun 29th 2020 at 12:24:43 PM
x3 I hope it's the former, I really like Arjuna Alter so I would prefer he explore his own feelings in his own interlude. Particularly since with his emotions back in his 3rd ascension, he'd probably reflect a lot on his going ham with the mass wiping.
List of Servants you totally shouldn't trust:
I'd add Holmes
Going through Anastasia in NA, it occurs to me that the throwaway mention of Jubei still hasn't paid off yet, I wonder if that'll tie into any further Shimousa/Mandala Hell stuff.
Or maybe BB ate him to become a Saber :/
You forgot Gilles...
And Lu Bu...
Edited by TitanJump on Jun 29th 2020 at 7:00:55 PM
BB is probably a picky eater, since all Servants she's confirmed to eat were goddesses.
What has the two of them even done in Chaldea? Last time Gilles appeared, it was in Abigail's interlude where he outright warns us about an upcoming calamity. I cannot recall last time Lu Bu really appeared.
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