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Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#726: Nov 16th 2016 at 1:59:37 AM

Coincidentally, John and Mary are my parents. [lol]

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#727: Nov 16th 2016 at 6:10:31 AM

Heh xD

Anyway, the first chapter basically done. Now I just need to figure out a good way to start chapter 2, whether with a Time Skip that starts off with Mrs. Wilde discovering anti-fox graffiti on their building, or starting off with Nick in the principal's office after beating up that beaver kid.

Darkflamewolf Since: Apr, 2013
#728: Nov 16th 2016 at 10:02:20 AM

Who is the main character? The mother or Nick? If it's Nick, go with beating up that Beaver kid. Always follow the main character. Unless you don't, then don't. :P

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#729: Nov 16th 2016 at 11:21:09 AM

Well for the moment it's following Nick, though the first chapter focused on his mother. The entire fic is going to be an alternate version of the story where Nick and his family move to Bunnyburrow after the Ranger Scout incident and Nick meets Judy, they become friends and live their lives in Bunnyburrow together, getting into various cute hijinks and growing up as friends, until going their separate ways as Judy goes to be a police officer and Nick returns to Zootopia to open a branch tailor shop for his dad, then the movie goes from there in a slightly different way as Nick is kidnapped and hit with the Night Howler serum while Judy quits the police force (and tells off Bogo in the process) in order to go find him.

edited 16th Nov '16 11:21:42 AM by theLibrarian

Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#730: Nov 16th 2016 at 11:18:27 PM

I doubt Mom will be a big character for long...

But I will go with a third option so you can have both: Nick is in the principal's office for beating up the beaver kid, and then mom has to bail him out, and they both go home and see the graffiti.

edited 16th Nov '16 11:18:40 PM by Malco

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#731: Nov 17th 2016 at 6:57:32 AM

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

Darkflamewolf Since: Apr, 2013
Berserker88 Since: Dec, 2010
#733: Nov 19th 2016 at 5:41:13 AM

A new(ish) story from me, Born to Be Drabbles!

Please don't read this if you haven't read the main story though. Thar be spoilers afoot. tongue

PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
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#734: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:01:13 PM

So, I'm still on this 12th Chapter. Pathetic, ain't it? I think I need some motivation by means of having a chat about it; so let's chat!

As some of you may know, this chapter is mostly a big collection of flashbacks detailing Bellwether's Start of Darkness. The latest one details that moment when she finally snaps and decides she wants the power to turn the tables on the big predators she's been so afraid of all this time. The moment I've chosen is when she accidentally makes a mess of Lionheart's office, which sets him off and makes him basically admit that he only chose her as his running mate for the free publicity, with no intention of giving her any actual responsibility (much like the Vice-POTUS, I think Assistant Mayor is a mostly ceremonial post, with its actual day-to-day responsibilities decided upon by the Mayor themselves).

I'm having a bit of trouble trying to decide upon how exactly he'd go about this; as in what he'd say. Would he make fun of her species? Clumsiness? Awkward demeanour? Call her useless? If it helps, the characterisation I've gone with here is more-or-less in line with the movie, that of a publicity-obsessed blowhard who harbours grand ideas of being a new MLK-type figure but is apparently blind to his own pride (no pun intended).

If nothing else, it'll be a conversation-starter. :V

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RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#735: Nov 20th 2016 at 3:47:52 PM

For me, having both sides snaps work best. Even better when drugs or alcohol involved.

Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#736: Nov 20th 2016 at 6:41:11 PM

I think simply making fun of Bellwether's (work) position is more than enough if it didn't set her off already. Then Lionheart adds her clumsiness and she blows her top.

Also it'd be funnier (and kinda in-character) that Lionheart doesn't ever comment on her size or race while reminding Bellwether of her place in the (political, not food chain) hierarchy. Even though Lionheart is some glory seeker I would prefer him to act consistently with his agenda to paint Bellwether as some sorta hypocrite where she's sticking it to the man citing discrimination for size or race—even if the man never ever was racist or size-ist.

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(It also keeps the story in Nick's POV.)

edited 20th Nov '16 6:42:30 PM by Malco

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#737: Nov 21st 2016 at 3:01:29 PM

That does sound like a good idea. That's also pretty much my intention, yes, especially considering the real, underlying reasons why she even went down that path at all. Let's just say she wasn't being honest with herself before.

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TheGreatUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#738: Nov 23rd 2016 at 6:21:13 PM

So, uh, not sure this is totally the right place to put it, but...thinking of starting a trope page for The Weaver's "Pack Street" stories. Anyone have any objections?

Berserker88 Since: Dec, 2010
#739: Nov 24th 2016 at 3:06:56 AM

Nope. I love Pack Street and would be happy to contribute to such a page. smile

TheGreatUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#740: Nov 24th 2016 at 5:44:39 AM

Alright, I've got it bare-bones started!

edited 24th Nov '16 5:55:11 AM by TheGreatUnknown

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#741: Nov 24th 2016 at 12:29:48 PM

Am I the only one here who doesn't read that? Even after having it explained to me and being somewhat interested, it doesn't really sound like Zootopia, despite being set in the same universe. One reason for my pickiness when it comes to Zoop fan fic; it needs to in some way feel like it could belong to the same universe shown in the movie, if that makes any sense. Though it probably doesn't. :/

You written anything of your own, Great Unknown?

edited 24th Nov '16 12:38:51 PM by PresidentStalkeyes

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lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#742: Nov 24th 2016 at 1:49:05 PM

I haven't really read much of it either although Weaver has some pretty hilarious stuff, I just couldn't really get into Pack Street.

I suppose this might interest some people here

The jist is, if anyone wants to get some art for some their fic or something (OCs included), I'm offering trades (For prose or pictures) in exchange for drabbles about my guilty pleasure ship (Gideon and Judy).

edited 24th Nov '16 8:11:08 PM by lycropath

TheGreatUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#743: Nov 24th 2016 at 5:51:21 PM

[up][up] Really? It absolutely fits to me. I mean, this is supposed to be the part we don't see in the movie, away from the mostly-shiny Solar Punk facade and into the hard reality, but without dipping into becoming a racist animal hell. Also, as usual, it's hilarious, the comics especially. And no...I have ten thousand ideas, but for some reason I never manage to write anything in full. I will eventually, though, I swear.

[up] Also, I would actually like to see something in particular, but alas, I'm no artist...hmm. You know, that's an interesting ship, alright.

lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#744: Nov 24th 2016 at 5:57:20 PM

I mean, I'm offering trades for writing if your upto it! I've got a few to do already but I'm always up for more, even if its half a page of drabbles that can at least be worth a headshot or something. [lol]

edited 24th Nov '16 5:58:08 PM by lycropath

TheGreatUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#745: Nov 24th 2016 at 6:00:02 PM

Ah...what the heck? I can try to write something. wink If I actually manage to get it down, I'll definitely get back to you!

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#747: Nov 24th 2016 at 6:25:33 PM

Yessssss, let me know what you'd like in exchange!

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#748: Nov 24th 2016 at 6:38:56 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]I dunno, I think the movie itself did establish pretty well that there was a dirtier side to the city (the slums that Duke lives in, the overgrown industrial park, the asylum and the less-than-flashy train that Judy rides on after the conference come to mind), and that's not even going into the darker side of the society. So it's definitely not that.

I'm not entirely sure why, but from the description I was given, it didn't seem to 'click' in my mind, shall we say. Maybe because it's a slice-of-life deal. Maybe I don't feel like I can relate to Remmy. Maybe some of the situations I've seen/heard seem a bit too out-there for my tastes. Who knows? It's one of those hard-to-pin-down, 'I know it when I see it' scenarios. :/

BUT, with that said, I can appreciate any fan work that delves into the nittier-grittier side of affairs without drowning in a pool of darkness, as you say. Comedy is always a good thing to have around. I've pretty much made it a rule whenever I write to include at least one comic relief moment every chapter, even the most serious ones. :P

Anyway, what sort of ideas do you have? I'm sure we'd all be interested in hearing them out. Especially how things have slowed down around here as of late.

edited 24th Nov '16 6:39:20 PM by PresidentStalkeyes

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TheGreatUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#749: Nov 24th 2016 at 6:50:53 PM

[up] Eh, those seemed to be mostly an Empathic Environment kind of deal, which makes sense when you're building a narrative tightly around the protagonist's frame of mind. So, yeah, it all seems shiny and fresh when Judy is a brand-new Naïve Newcomer, and even her apartment, though tiny and crowded (and probably overpriced) is clean and comforting, but when she's realized some of the truth and is dejected and miserable she starts to notice the cracks and imperfections. It's a subtle but really good way of getting into a character's head.

To be honest, I don't really usually like slice of life either. But what really makes it work for me are the characters: to me, characters are everything, and I would even ignore a bad setting if the character writing is good enough. I mean, it's not for everyone, and Remmy's First-Person Smartass isn't necessarily to each reader's taste (though his status as a Cosmic Chew Toy and eventual realization that he's not without flaws of his own balance that out for me), but they make it entertaining, and the scenarios—particularly the ones since it's been recently getting more plot-focused—generally keep me entertained. I mean, I was grinning all through Chapter 10, especially given the Foregone Conclusion that it'll be leading to in canon.

Still! Yeah, everything in moderation, both light and dark. As for me? As you might be able to tell by my gallery, I'm a big fan of the scrapped elements and the characters. And for the record, I ship Savageskye and, in the past, Wildehoney. I also like A Us myself. Expect a lot of those to show up.

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#750: Nov 24th 2016 at 7:39:58 PM

[up] Wildehoney, you say? Interesting... I actually have a story planned which, while it doesn't explicitly ship them, there's definitely something deeper going on between them. She's meant to represent a 'failed Judy' type of figure, if that makes any sense. Though my characterisation of Honey is a bit different from usual; for one thing, I dialled down her Conspiracy Theorist tendencies so she's at least aware of how irrationally paranoid she is. :V

Of course, I'd need to continue this latest chapter of my current fic before working on that. You know I haven't updated in nearly half a year? I make myself cringe thinking about it. :/

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