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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#726: Jul 27th 2020 at 4:55:36 PM

Puppets and lego could be pretty cool!

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MileRun Since: Jan, 2001
#727: Jul 27th 2020 at 4:56:54 PM

Watch as Lego Mario releases and becomes the return-to-form Mario RPG we've all been waiting for.

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#728: Jul 27th 2020 at 4:57:30 PM

[up][up] I mean the Puppet part legitimately as Miyamoto did once consider being in Puppet Theater before becoming a Game Dev.

Plus the materials of the Puppet would be interesting in a Paper Mario setting.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jul 27th 2020 at 4:57:21 AM

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#729: Jul 27th 2020 at 5:04:04 PM

[imagines a creepy giant Scuttlebug puppet or something]

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#730: Jul 27th 2020 at 5:05:02 PM

Plus like materials made out of wood are considered super-powerful like Mario's Hammer.

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#731: Jul 27th 2020 at 7:08:37 PM

Shadow puppet Boos as the bad guys.

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#732: Jul 28th 2020 at 1:24:36 AM

@Mile Run

I am afraid that ship has sailed years ago.

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#733: Jul 28th 2020 at 3:52:59 AM

A puppet Mario game would be cool.

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#734: Jul 29th 2020 at 11:15:31 AM

Extended version of that one video. I like how Kamek and Bobby look like they don't know what they're doing and are somehow still rocking it

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MisterZygarde64 Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth from New Mobotropolis, Mushroom Kingdom Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#735: Jul 29th 2020 at 2:55:49 PM

Going back to the idea of a Paper Mario game that were to use forgotten characters as partners. lalalei2001 suggested it could go for an obscure nostalgia theme which I think would be interesting. Especially if we were to have it set in Jewelry Land.

To continue with an obscure nostalgia theme have Wart or Tatanga be the villain, possibly with an army of more obscure enemies like have the Goombos from Super Mario Land and the Koopeleons from Partners in Time act as replacements for the typical goomba and koopa enemies.

Maybe as a nod to Wario’s Woods and Yoshi’s Safari. Luigi along with Toad, Yoshi, and Birdo could be off on their own adventures similar to what Luigi was doing in Origami King.

Edited by MisterZygarde64 on Jul 28th 2020 at 11:58:40 PM

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#736: Jul 29th 2020 at 4:19:25 PM

More specifics on the mandate: no obvious gender, age difference of mario characters outside established canonon among other things.

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#737: Jul 29th 2020 at 4:38:42 PM

I think the most reasonable way to interpret this limitation is that it's some misguided and dumb attempt by Nintendo on their second/third party devs to maintain brand consistency/image or something along those lines.

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#738: Jul 29th 2020 at 4:51:29 PM

After all these years, something Nintendo and Sega have in common: stupid, suffocatingly restrictive mandates. tongue

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#739: Jul 29th 2020 at 5:03:42 PM

Someone in the comment section of that video suggested we try and let people at Nintendo know that these mandates are stupid.

Someone else suggested that New Super Mario Bros Wii started an era of sterilization that might’ve created the mandate that made many games feel so samey and pointed out that Super Mario Odyssey and Luigi’s Mansion 3 are the best selling Mario games this past decade because they broke away from the mandate meaning that people don’t want the Mario games to follow this mandate.

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#740: Jul 29th 2020 at 5:09:46 PM

No offense, but can you please stop telling us what "someone said" elsewhere? You do that a lot, and while I don't disagree in this case, as a rule if I wanted to read people's hateful comments on whatever other website I'd visit whatever other website.

MisterZygarde64 Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth from New Mobotropolis, Mushroom Kingdom Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#741: Jul 29th 2020 at 5:15:08 PM

I felt that their points were interesting to bring up. Especially the one that theorized that New Super Mario Bros Wii started the trend of the games feeling much more samey.

Honestly I think that Nintendo’s restrictions are pointless as nobody complained about the designs of most NPC’s in Thousand Year Door.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#742: Jul 29th 2020 at 5:55:24 PM

I think it's overcorrecting from Super Paper Mario being too far removed from the Mario universe, since none of the other subseries or main series have that restriction.

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#743: Jul 29th 2020 at 6:01:31 PM

You say that but it bears restating that the Superstar Saga remake retconned varied Toad designs into being all generic.

Edited by Perseus on Jul 29th 2020 at 6:01:35 AM

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#744: Jul 29th 2020 at 6:03:51 PM

Toads are suppose to look the same, if they remade Mario Party 1...all Toads in the shop would also be standardized.

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#745: Jul 29th 2020 at 6:26:13 PM

Toadette tho

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#746: Jul 29th 2020 at 6:50:43 PM

I keep forgetting Toadette was in TTYD.

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MileRun Since: Jan, 2001
#747: Jul 29th 2020 at 7:31:16 PM

It's pretty clear that Nintendo doesn't care too much about our opinions on the non-gameplay elements of their games, at least for Mario games.

As much as the mandates weaken worldbuilding in Mario, I mean, it's just worldbuilding in Mario. There's barely any continuity; it's one of those things they make up as they go along. Not a big loss for them.

In exchange, a blanket mandate like this gives Nintendo some low-effort, high-effect image control. It means secondary and possible third-party developers who handle Mario games cut down on the volume of original characters and concepts that Nintendo would have to look over and individually approve.

It's a shame and I hate it, but I'd be lying if I said it was impractical.

MisterZygarde64 Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth from New Mobotropolis, Mushroom Kingdom Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#748: Jul 29th 2020 at 7:36:03 PM

Still doesn’t really change the fact that people will still demand for more unique character designs and world building along with people calling the games samey. Sure the mandate is practical but do the fans care? Not really, there’s still going to be a demand for more original designs.

Edited by MisterZygarde64 on Jul 29th 2020 at 4:37:14 AM

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MileRun Since: Jan, 2001
#749: Jul 29th 2020 at 7:41:41 PM

Not nearly enough demand to get Nintendo's attention

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#750: Jul 29th 2020 at 7:58:53 PM

A relatively small group of people whining on the internet is not, and will never be, of any concern to Nintendo.

Edited by Perseus on Jul 29th 2020 at 8:03:17 AM


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