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This week, producer Ross Putnam started a Twitter account called "femscriptintros", where he puts up examples of how women are introduced in the screenplays he's read. And nearly all of sound like terrible porn or are too concerned with emphasizing said lady is beautiful despite whatever traits she may have. Here's a Take Two podcast made today where he talks about it.

edited 12th Feb '16 5:52:00 PM by Tuckerscreator

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#21176: May 18th 2019 at 6:54:28 PM

An article on some odd casting choices for the Black-ish spin off Mixed-ish.

Arica Himmel is spot on for a young Tracee Ellis Ross, but I question Mykal-Michelle Harris and Ethan Childress because they are supposed to be playing a young Rashida Jones and Daveed Diggs, and neither of those actors are as white-passing as Harris and Childress. I could understand an argument for Jones, but not at all for Diggs.

Then there is the issue of Alicia Johnson now being played the dark-skinned Tika Sumpter when was previously depicted by the much lighter-skinned actress Anna Deavere Smith.

People are calling it a “Reverse Aunt Viv”, referring to The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, when the show fired the original actress who played Aunt Viv (Janet Hubert) and replaced her with a lighter-skinned actress who was written much more passively than her darker counterpart. This kind of casting issue has also happened on shows like Family Matters and My Wife and Kids.

One the one hand, it can be seen as an improvement, because we now have a darker-skinned woman in a lead role, but with a show that is all about Black identity, having Bow go from the daughter of a light-skinned, almost white-passing woman, to a dark-skinned woman would be such a different experience.

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#21177: May 18th 2019 at 8:12:10 PM

But god do I want some popcorn romances that are just FUN. Or adventure movies that need no justification for daring to acknowledge gay people exist and can be heroes too.

Amen to that. Naturally, I feel that way more about black people, but that has its place for any minority.

Add me to the group.

One the one hand, it can be seen as an improvement, because we now have a darker-skinned woman in a lead role, but with a show that is all about Black identity, having Bow go from the daughter of a light-skinned, almost white-passing woman, to a dark-skinned woman would be such a different experience.

Yeah, that sounds like something that changes the entire premise of the series

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Also. To add to the "I'm writing something, I will call you to see it later": I'm writing a story with many non-white characters. I'm trying to create a memorable Quechua-descendent Latin American protagonist (those identities aren't self contradictory BTW, many citizens of modern day Peruvian urban cities are from -interal-inmigrant andean families, example: Myself).

And also, a very evil Quechua-descendent villain. People will remind that we can be very, very cruel, to show that we are humans after all...

...seriously, I'm kinda in love with the idea of a Latino Indigenous-looking The Generalissimo. I have reasons for it.

Watch me destroying my country
erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#21178: May 18th 2019 at 8:33:28 PM

Also. To add to the "I'm writing something, I will call you to see it later": I'm writing a story with many non-white characters. I'm trying to create a memorable Quechua-descendent Latin American protagonist (those identities aren't self contradictory BTW, many citizens of modern day Peruvian urban cities are from -interal-inmigrant andean families, example: Myself).

And also, a very evil Quechua-descendent villain. People will remind that we can be very, very cruel, to show that we are humans after all...

...seriously, I'm kinda in love with the idea of a Latino Indigenous-looking The Generalissimo. I have reasons for it.

That sounds amazing ngl.

Edited by erazor0707 on May 18th 2019 at 8:33:56 AM

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#21179: May 18th 2019 at 10:02:27 PM

Well, if we're sharing works, I'm working on a Fantasy (MAYBE Alt-History?) Western with gay leads. One is a mage from the city streets of New York while another is a Witcher-esque Monster Hunter living out in the Western Territories of late 1800s America. I'm actually really kind of looking forward to exploring racism, representation, society, and a bunch of other topics though using the fantasy elements but, unlike other uses of 'Fantasy Racism to explore real racism', I want to explore some more intersectional topics as well. If people discriminate based on skin-tone, where does that put groups like, say, Dwarves which might already be discriminated against?

Plus I also really like the idea of your usual fantasy archetypes in... Cowboy Wild West. It's so strange and unusual and I love it.

Just... Not sure if I want to write a script or do it as a novel. Novel means more details but a script could be quick fun and to the point, right?

TheShadow The Shadow from Watching you Since: Apr, 2009
The Shadow
#21180: May 19th 2019 at 12:34:59 PM

Jumping on the bandwagon of sharing troper works, I've written the first draft, where one of the main character is gay and runs out on her responsibilities, including an arranged marriage to another woman, to have adventures.

Now if I only had time to edit it.

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#21182: May 19th 2019 at 1:08:16 PM

Well it is the youtube comments section,I'm surprised they left the comments open

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#21183: May 19th 2019 at 1:09:49 PM

[up][up]I did not like the trailer, I don’t remember Kate being a Glory Hound, but when you’re on the nose about diversity on the internet, things go south in a hurry.

Edited by Beatman1 on May 19th 2019 at 4:27:27 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#21184: May 19th 2019 at 1:18:17 PM

No surprise there. The Anti-SJW crowd needs a new target. I mean, last time I checked they were making up "news" about Captain Marvel by creating petitions. Once the DVD is released there will be little to get fake deranged about for a while. This is the next logical target at least until advertising for episode 9 starts.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#21185: May 19th 2019 at 1:38:51 PM

Honestly Batwoman being a glory hound seems like an interesting angle to go.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#21186: May 19th 2019 at 1:43:46 PM

I don't even get how she's a glory hound. All she says is that she doesn't want people to mistake her for Batman.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#21187: May 19th 2019 at 1:48:50 PM

I noticed that they copied the hero/her thing from the Captain Marvel trailer.

Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
#21188: May 19th 2019 at 2:30:33 PM

And Captain Marvel's comics/Endgame hairstyle too…?

Edited by Lyendith on May 19th 2019 at 11:30:48 AM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#21189: May 19th 2019 at 2:32:59 PM

It's not that different from how Ruby Rose's hair is typically styled.

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Jaded Techie Fox
#21190: May 19th 2019 at 2:43:54 PM

And it's not dissimilar from Kate Kane's comic haircut. Well, I think her comic haircut might be shorter actually, but it's been a while since I've read Batwoman comics.

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Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
#21191: May 19th 2019 at 2:44:58 PM

What's with the red wig-thingy, though…? Does it have any particular meaning?

Now while some might rage on the feminism and butch lesbian protagonist, I'm annoyed by something else…

When the show picks up, Gotham City is in despair. In Batman's absence, the city has become overrun by crime.

…What's with DC and their cities falling into crime just because one vigilante figure has disappeared? It was the same shit in the JL film… THAT'S NOT HOW CRIME WORKS.

Edited by Lyendith on May 19th 2019 at 11:48:41 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#21192: May 19th 2019 at 2:48:07 PM

> THAT'S NOT HOW CRIME WORKS.

SHHHHH!

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#21193: May 19th 2019 at 3:01:50 PM

In the comics the wig is just a costume flair that doubles as a distraction. If an opponent grabs it, it detaches, like a detachable tail on a lizard.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on May 19th 2019 at 3:02:53 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#21194: May 19th 2019 at 3:02:20 PM

Since when have superhero stories cared about how crime works? Batman in particular has been a huge offender of this.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#21195: May 19th 2019 at 7:59:22 PM

At least some Bat-media emphasizes that Batman does a lot of good in his civilian identity to reduce crime in various ways. So I could see that the problem isn't just that Batman is gone, but that Wayne Enterprises probably isn't bothering to invest into the city in the same way Bruce did.

InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#21196: May 20th 2019 at 12:57:50 AM

[up][up]true, but Arkham Knight was at least interesting when crime basically... died almost over night.

I also think it said a lot more too.

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Queen of Good Things, Honest
#21197: May 20th 2019 at 7:09:57 AM

At least some Bat-media emphasizes that Batman does a lot of good in his civilian identity to reduce crime in various ways. So I could see that the problem isn't just that Batman is gone, but that Wayne Enterprises probably isn't bothering to invest into the city in the same way Bruce did.

If it's not, then he did a poor job of staffing his board of directors.

Probably hard to find time to run background checks when you're busy tooling around the city in the Batmobile, though.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#21198: May 20th 2019 at 7:36:03 AM

New Details Emerge on the Villain of Disney's Live-Action Mulan

We haven’t heard much about Disney and Niki Caro’s live-action Mulan for a while but thanks to an interview posted on Weibo with actress Gong Li, we now know a tiny bit more about the film’s villain, a witch named Xian Lang.

Although she didn’t get into spoilers or specifics, she did reveal what fans can expect from the character, saying (translated from Mandarin), “I’ve never played a villain but with this role — audiences will feel she’s a villain in the beginning but toward the end, they’ll see why.”

The actor went on to compare her character to the White Bone Spirit, a shapeshifting demoness from the classic Chinese novel, Journey to the West. Xian Lang is a powerful witch who, as Gong described, “can turn herself into a thousand eagles.” Clearly, Xian Lang — whose name roughly translates to “fairy wolf” — is a vastly different villain than Shan Yu. “There was no witch in the original,” Gong said, “there was a man but he wasn’t that important. [Xian Lang] will become important in this movie [...] audiences will understand why this character is the way she is, what she wants — they’ve handled the character very well.”

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#21199: May 20th 2019 at 7:46:01 AM

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That sounds awful. If they wanted Bai Gu Jing why not just adapt Journey West? Why shoehorn her into an entirely different Chinese myth

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#21200: May 20th 2019 at 7:50:38 AM

What was wrong with the Huns? They were very real and very dangerous. Hell, if you want a more visceral threat, why not just use the Mongolians? Why do you need this fantasy crap?


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