Netflix's Voltron: Legendary Defender

I can definitely imagine 20 years in the future to be hearing gay men say that Shiro was ther first crush and role model....like Korra is for gay ladies.

It's super rare to see the a gay man front and center rather then a sid character in the story.

( As shown in the parodi episode "The Voltron Show!" S4:E4 he gets the nickname Shiro the Hero, Rather then Loverboy/Humorous he would probably get in another show.

He is beloved in the show Univers...unlike Korra that is shunned and detested in her Univers.

Despite how he looks....He is super friendly and supportive and dont fall into any macho cliches

His first love (maybe) dies in battel so he might end the show as a heartbroken singel. ( the judge is out on this one)

Like Korra before so was he writen to be a ambigusly gay man but somehow the showrunner convince the suits to make it official in the show...which is awesome but sadly it's already animeted and written to be ambigusly.

Like imagine if bryke had come to comic con and said that Korra and Asami is bi and we will see them fall in love in season 4 ,and then we watch the show 3 month later and Korra/Asami spend almost the whole season separately, only speak in ambigusly sentences that can be both read as romantic and platonic and no kissing,romantic huggings or even a I love you...only a handholding scene in the end.

People would be disappointed and pissed....which many fans of Voltron was during season 7

But it's sadly not much the showrunner can do about it.

There’s going to be an interview with the writing staff tonight at 11:00pm EST. This is probably in response to some really crazy leaks that have appeared in the past 24 hours.

Said leaks include Shiro marrying a Roy Fokker lookalike, and Allura dying.

Edited by Beatman1 on Oct 24th 2018 at 7:47:51 AM

Though Korra does have a comic with her officially in a relationship with Asami.

I guess the outcry over Adam really did have an effect after all.

If the leaks end up being real, there's some suspiciuos things here and there, so I'm not sure I believe them quite yet.

For one, the original leaker (the one who posted Shiro's wedding) saying they were working on the malay dub of S8... even though Malaysia's last dubbed season of VLD was S2 (the leaker also said they didn't need to sign an NDA to work on the show, which is nigh-unbelievable). Before they deleted, all their other posts were about manips from other shows. Further leaks come from empty twitters and say they are from BTI Studios, which localizes Netflix shows in Europe. Lastly, One of said leaks was a still with text a la "Where Are They Now?" Epilogue with bad grammar, which makes its authenticity doubtful.

It might still be true, of course, but I'm well prepared for these "leaks" to be fabricated.

Oh, and the interview was all about the Game Show Episode, no talk of leaks at all.

Edited by DemonDamian on Oct 24th 2018 at 12:52:45 PM

The leaks may be real after all. Here's a pic of the french dubbing team taking a selfie with the older paladins leak behind them.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/476145961182429194/505582533358911499/1Dv7MhTN (dot) jpg

Edited by AdvFinny on Oct 27th 2018 at 7:16:24 AM

Ok, some thoughts on the leaks.

Roy is a placeholder or else there’s going to be a lawsuit from Tatsunoko and Harmony Gold, especially with the 2017 ruling making the chain of command on Macross rights in the US clear (Harmony Gold gets rights till 2021 at which point they revert to Tatsunoko, the latter of which has no interest in renewing the deal). And they cannot show that scene in every country. To be honest, that’s not as bad as the implication that Allura died, which is just several metric tons of Unfortunate Implications.

Edited by Beatman1 on Oct 27th 2018 at 11:46:24 AM

Yeah the latter one has me reeling. If true it just sounds like a terrible decision all around, both in-universe and out.

The former one, though, wasn't there a Roy cameo in the very first episode as well as quite a few other obvious references to Robotech? And they openly admitted to ripping off Macross in the latest season. I really don't see why it would cause a problem now.

It’s one thing to have a cameo.

To use the design without changes for a gay marriage is something that they can sue over for unauthorized use. Hence the placeholder theory. That doesn’t account for the bonus cringe of forgetting Roy’s actual girlfriend Claudia, an example of an interracial couple in the 80’s.

Edited by Beatman1 on Oct 27th 2018 at 5:31:25 AM

Just because the circumstances are now a wedding doesn't make it not still a cameo. I see nothing suitworthy about that. Especially since they would look like homophobes for reacting to this yet not the earlier cameos.

Anyway, wow. After all the trouble they had with just admitting Adam was Shiro's boyfriend, that's one hell of an Author's Saving Throw. Even if they did resort to a literal Last-Minute Hookup for it.

Edited by AlleyOop on Oct 27th 2018 at 5:42:46 AM

That could be considered denigration of the brand. It’s one thing to have a character in a background, it’s another to make them actively part of the plot without authorization, which if the cameo is “he’s marrying the main character” is pretty easy to say. Especially given how notorious Harmony Gold is about litigating anything that slightly resembles Macross.

Edited by Beatman1 on Oct 27th 2018 at 5:58:11 AM

Yes, but it's not really Roy is it? Has Harmony Gold actually sued for this? I get the feeling Robotech cameos have existed in other cartoons before but nobody ever forced them to take action there either.

Harmony Gold is very lawsuit happy, as fans of Battletech can attest. But if they change a few things in the final it should be enough to avoid litigation. That’s a degree of legal separation I’m admittedly not an expert in.

Edited by Beatman1 on Oct 27th 2018 at 6:47:41 AM

Not to be a wet blanket, but I'm still skeptical. Unless you want to make sure you never work again in the business, you don't go around posting smiling pictures with the last scenes of the unreleased final season of a show that you're localizing. If real, Netflix and/or Dreamworks will most probably blacklist this studio in the future. What reasons do they have to "confirm" these leaks and put their livelihoods on the line, anyway? To prove the skeptics wrong? The shadows also look inconsistent, but that may just be me.

Again, I won't be surprised if this is real, but I also won't be surprised if it's not.

Yeah, but Harmony Gold lost their last lawsuit and lost hard. While they can keep the Robotech name, the image and likeness rights starting expiring next year.

Here it is, the final season trailer, with a quote from a linked article.

I'm up to season 4. I thought the alternate reality which makes zombies and is responsible for everything and created Voltron was introduced rather suddenly and late.

And Princess Allura should have been the Black Lion, not Keith.

While innovative and unheard of in children entertainment, I think it's kinda problematic for a male protagonist to ride the main female character to battles.

And now I'm having Franxx flashbacks.

gah

I have made it to season six. But there's a problem, the writers like Prince Lotor far more than I do.

The season finale is either gonna come as a relief or annoy you for wasting your time.

I was actually happy to see it.

And now I'm all caught up. I should have been watching this show along with the rest of the internet. Oh well.

I still don't get why the Atlas turned into a robot though.

Quintessence son!

To be more precise, that seems to be the effect that any Quintessence has on machines powered by it. Remember that the five lions were not originally created with combining in mind. It seems to be similar to Getter Rays in that regard. It gives a more humanoid form to something that doesn't have it.

That explains how they keep creating new weapons for every new situation.

I also call bullshit on the Coalition and the Blades getting decimated after Lotor and Zarkon are dead. They had a third of the universe, were their defenses that dependent on Voltron?

I'm guessing it had something to do with whatever Haggar's been doing.